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Originally posted by saturn1234

why is the PvP lacking?

I mean I can understand people want a change of pace from WoW or whatever game you are currently playing.  But I am really tired of this hype.

I have been playing the Warhammer beta since the guild beta, on my Chaos Chosen for a pretty long time now.  I tried alot of other classes and I really did not like the way they look or play, and I had to stick to the destruction side because that is what my guild chose. 

So my Chosen is 28 now , and I think i have experienced enough pvp to give some good insight.  And in all honesty its nothing you havent seen before...

This "RvR" thing that everyone keeps talking about closely resembles Alterac Valley in world of warcraft, it differs in very few ways, one of the only major ways being the location of the stuggle.

Aside from that, I played scenarios that felt like Arathi Basin and Eye of the Storm ALOT.  This is the other form of PvP in Warhammer.  And in my opinion scenarios = battlegrounds.

Each zone has its different RvR points and scenarios, but again it is nothing you havent seen before.

On to the actual combat.  Sadly I feel it is lacking also.  Success was almost 100% based on number of combatants.  And the destruction side largely outnumbered the Order.  It could possibly be my class choice, but I could rarely do enough damage to any single person to kill them myself, and while I am all for a team effort, it is very frustrating to not feel like you have a large impact on the battle you are in.  After pvping in warhammer for a few days with my friends I really craved the more organized and exciting arena combat in World of Warcraft.

In Warhammer you just roamed around in a team and zerged down either smaller groups, or less organized groups of players.  I can say that i was in very few fights that involved a small enough amount of people so that my personal player skill really won the battle for us.  It is more about organization and, again, numbers of people.   Playing with my  4 friends and being on ventrilo felt like cheating really.   Alot of the PvP in this game feels like premade battleground gameplay in World of Warcraft.  And i know how unpopular that was.......

The combat mechanics in this game are also alot slower than I thought they would be.  I think they can be best compared to Lord of the Rings online.  I dont think there are any abilities that crowd control/fear/sleep other players in the game, which is also something I disliked alot. 

I really wanted to love this game and have it take me somewhere besides the Azeroth that I am used to.  But after all of this testing Wrath of the Lich King is really what i am looking forward to.  I wrote this because I just hate seeing a game hyped up on every forum, and then after its released seeing everyone complaining about the exact same things. 

 

 

At last, one decent man with it's feet on the ground. Hello! War suck, it's niche game!

NDA is nw lifted right?

Yeah,  the thing with WAR is that, with all their great PvP games, it's all for nothing. I mean, ok let's be clearer:

1: they completely cut PvE from RvR. Yeah, you got keeps, and PvP loot and PvP quests but why would you go into the RvR zone? They are empty. Cause you have to walk a great deal just to find yourself in the mudlle of a dead zone with no mobs, no quests, and no purpuse. It's like walking into a BG(scenario). But the thing is that if you wanna fight enem players, it's much easier ti just DO a bg. So when you quest you will NOT be on the same path as enemy players. PvE and RVR are completely cut of from each other. THis is NOT world PvP.

2: the world is cut in 3. You can lvl from 1 to 40 by questing in your race zones. Wich me that the games never realy join with other races. It doesn't feel like one world. It feels like intance races.

3: Tier are cut of from each other. When are are low lvl you obviously can't go into higher lvl zones, but remember how scarry it was to meet a higher lvl raid on your questing town? This is imposible in WAR. Cause as soon as you get to another tier, the previous tiers are cut from you. ou just CANT go  anymore. This feels like instance tier.


4: Lack of content. Many other little things or ideas that contribute ar making this game feels static, redondant and not like a world.

I could live with some flaw, but the fact that there is no world pvp due to the fact that PvE and PvP are separete in this game, it's bid waste of potentiel. And open RvR will in no way make it better.

It's realy like if they got scarred at how ppl would react to a game with PvP on normal servers. The made everthing to make PvP for sissy. But this doesn't work. Useless RvR zones, never meet higher players, the world is then dilute in tree so you get less chances of meeting enemy players.  Don't make a PvP game for sissy , let em play their mindnumbling grind on other games.

We had Age of Bugs, now we got InstanceHammer.

 

These dev profile have been more and more present since the last couples of months. Now every MMOs has their dev profiles spamming the colums news try to get some attention and pub for their game.

WHO FUCKING CARES?!

What???!!?!?!
I have a very powerfull comp and can't have decent FPS in this game. It's simply not ready codewise.

Are you working for FC?
Anyways, the main issu about this game is performance. And I'll have to see it before I beleive it. And even then, who is gonna play such a high specs requirement MMO? Only a few, only a few. FOr now...

WAR 40 000 as an RPG(not an FPS) is coming. I know the game is still far from release(hell, very far!), but I wish to have a forum to speak of it already. I demand that MMORPG create one!

Have you read the last article?

http://www.pcgamer.com/archives/2008/04/42908_-_warhamm.html

I have a E6600, and I've been unable to play the game. This will be a majot issue for AoC. It's gonna kill this game, IMO. This and the fact that they never get the right pace to make thier combe system effective in PvP.

Game industry is already a joke. Only bad games come out cause of money killing creativity. This is a sad new for he gaming world, for AoC but most of all, for us gamers. I hate busness.  Now AoC can say byebye to my suscribtion. And I'm going to change my ype lvl from 10 to 1.

Damn you Eidos. We will censorship you games.

European only?!??!! What the hell is that?!

I did beta a lot of games that I had high expectations for, and it was always disapointing. And after I re-tried the games sometime after lauch, I enjoy em way much more. Just to say that bugs can kill your appreciation of a game. So when I aply for a beta now, I am ready to do what beta is for; test bugs in horrible gameplay sessions. So to anwsers your question, yes I still wanna beta WAR. Not cause I wanna play it, cause it won't proabably fun until lauch, but because I want my opinion to play a role in the devveloppement of this game. Cause if  WAR doesn't become great(to my own eyes), I'll be sad and without any MMOs to play.

Oh, and just to say that MMOs becomes polish enough to be call done at least 6 motnh POST release.

LOTR is deffenetely THE PvE MMO right now. But if you like RvR and PvP, go for wow(on a RPPvP server). They are both very good games, but WoW PvE is just a Grind, and LOTR lack a good PvP system.

I remember from 2 video podcast(no, I'm not gonna search them and link em here), that Paul said they where gonna dye if the game wasn't release early 08.
Of course I knew he would suffer from it, cause this is the ways of MMOs. Delay delay delay. Execpt for LOTRO who meets his release date and had a pretty good game at lauch.

I do beleive that a summer release is probable for WAR. But a 09 push but is as much probable.

It's certainly the best PvE MMO, without any doubt. But PvE has it's limit, I would have loved to see some RvR in this game. Why can't we play goblins?!

naaa, that can't be true. I don't belive this.

FC made an official annoncement about the beta in december and they said there is more than 10 000 in beta right now. But I lot have doubts. But why would they lie?

To me Darkfall is the dream MMO on paper. But will it work? Will it be fun? Hope so. This is a bit like DnD VS Gurps. DnD works well, but yiu have to accept  his boundary.

AoC will work. But to me it comes to 2 things. Combat and the Mature world. Wich are 2 greta addition to the MMO formula they choose to follow. But is it enough? Will it make us player stay with em for a long time? But I must admit that I am veri enthousiast with their combat system, can't wait tp try that.

DF deffenetely could bring us a TRUE MMO experience. But AoC promise a hell of fun.

Grats Avery, and thx for everything you did for us poor lazy community ppl. Have fun in Norway!

This game can't fail to be great. Let's just hope adventurine won't fall. But if it's gouvernement fund, it's probably a god news, so they can keep making the right choices. Wich no company was able to do.

This company isn't doing anything like regular company. They won't give an approxiamtive date, just to get some hype. Cause they know this would interfere with want they want; create a great game. I know that MMO aee always delayed multiple times, and Darkfall isb't in beta yet, but here again, you just can't tell, cause they might realy lauch the beat with a nearly complete game. Hell it could lauch in mars! But it couls also lauch in 2010. But I will lauch.

My point is, we just can't use our past experience with game lauch for Darkfall, this game is just too different. If it turns ot well, this game could be groundbreaking(in terms of quality).

I guess you are both lucky now...
Well me, sigh... 
I can't say it, right?
But it's all about frustration and disapointment
And no response