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With the server merges, is roleplay dead? 

Originally posted by haltea

Originally posted by DownMonkey

Originally posted by haltea

Originally posted by DownMonkey

Originally posted by haltea

 

Originally posted by DownMonkey
WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

 

 

Which are?

Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.

Smaller worlds? Smaller than AoC, you gotta be kiddin, you obviously have no idea. AoC has the smallest world of all major mmoprg i played.

I'm not going to argue with you, I knew as soon as you said "which are" that you where looking for an argument about things you clearly don't understand. I said smaller worlds as bait and you took it, I could go into detail as to what I mean but I don't see any point, you've made your mind up.

LOL, yeah, exactly my point, you have no arguments at all to back up your bold statements.

Originally posted by markoraos

It is completely instanced and it has no open world whatsoever, therefore I won't play it. Easy as that.

If it were built from ground up as an instanced game like GW or DDO it might have worked out but this "Lets structure the game like an open world but make it completely instanced" is total bull. Sorry.

and here's a bit longer rant on the differences between zoning and instancing

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2030375/thread/181584#2030375

Originally posted by haltea

Originally posted by DownMonkey

Originally posted by haltea

 

Originally posted by DownMonkey
WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

 

 

Which are?

Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.

Smaller worlds? Smaller than AoC, you gotta be kiddin, you obviously have no idea. AoC has the smallest world of all major mmoprg i played.

Originally posted by haltea

Originally posted by DownMonkey
WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

 

Which are?

Originally posted by Anzie

Originally posted by kitsunegirl

I would just like to point out that even in Warcack you are zoning. Just because you dont see the shimmering portals on the borders of the zones, or the buildings, doesnt mean youre not. Blizzard was just smart enough to make the world look like there wasnt any zoning.

 

LOL? Why don't you explain how is this?

when I go on a PTR server and I go to elwyn forest I see all these alliance dueling and fishing hordes.

Originally posted by Keyalha

Sorry but thats Aikin bullshit you talking.

In WoW the only zoning points are those what been patched with 2.4 content and between the two continents as itsself.

 

Dont talk about instances itsself tho as those are "intended" to be zoned.

 

Unlike in any other mmo you see between different "zone" borders what is most likley not happening in AoC.

Originally posted by Costello121

Yes WoW has sorted ganking but hey, WoW's a shit game for mindless retards?... I'd prefer to play a game that required some level of intellect in order to stay survive i.e. the solution being, make friends, hide or just use your imagination.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

I have the REAL solution to this "death on loading" problem.

Eliminate the loading screens in open world.

Like professional MMORPG designers do.

Even Mythic could do it.

Originally posted by aras420

As a roplayer I would be the player and gank because I can and I would roleplay while I ganked so... What of it.  Can I not RP an asshole and take little guys out?  It is "roleplaying" right?  You don't think that in hyboria there would be people killing little guys for fun?  It happens in war to this day in RL. If you don't want to get ganked play oblivion. I am an asshole and I approve this message as well as I approve in beating the little guy down.  It's like mashing snow... It's just fun.

Originally posted by wolfmann

Everyone is tippetytoeing around the problem here, just so they can get their say for or against FFA PvP.

The problem is that Funcom in their infinite wisdom only have 1 type of RP servers... FFA PvP.

 

And because of that, the RP'ers now have a field day being ganked... And nowhere to go, unlike regular non RP players who can go to any PvE server and get to play his game his way still.

 

Again, just as predicted by every RP'er who had a brain, and denied by any PvP'er who wanted to gank those he believes is a basement dweller who talks in "thee's" and cybers on mailboxes. The gankers won.

Originally posted by iwantmyswg we did make fuss about it when we had the chance soe banned us from the game forums when we did.

What are you talking about?  Why would they ban you for making posts about how much you love the game?

People wanted the game fixing, it was a mess before the CU.  There was none of this "we love SWG it's the best game over" posting on the boards when people demanded changes.  SOE screwed up the changes but don't act like SWG was some wonder game, it was the players that made SWG worth playing.  Combat was a mess and utterly un-balanced.

Originally posted by iwantmyswg

 

Originally posted by DownMonkey

 

 
Originally posted by iwantmyswg   ...(SWG was) namely the greatest mmo that would had been better if left alone.

 

OKAY, SWG was a mess, a big fat mess.  It needed fixing and SOE tried to do that, they screwed up but they at least tried, they didn't do it to kill the game.  What half of you whining SOE haters seem to forget or ignore was SWG was a mess and broken, it was losing players and was well known as a bug ridden mess.

GET over it, SWG was already dying and SOE tried to fix it.  It was NOT this amazing game that you all keep making out it was.

the pre-cu system is one of the best systems ever made. almost every review i have seen of the pre-cu system has been 8 out of 10, i think the highest the nge has gotten so far is maybe a 4 out of 10. did people leave swg, yeah they did to see what wow was like however they would have come back. many of them did but then saw what the cu was like and left again. no one liked that system infact all of us begged soe to roll the game back to the pre-cu system in order to save it.

 

did they? no they made the nge they had been working on it for almost a year at that point. what did we get for our support of the game? banned from the forums for speaking out and telling the truth and told that the nge is here to stay. i feel soe wanted to kill swg as it was taking money away from eq & eq2. that is where the money was at in soe not with swg pre-cu that with bugs being fixed would have gotten the million players swg should have had.

we where lied to from the start about the nge. we where lied too about obi-wan as soe didn't put items into it that they said they would. we where still lied too about the state of the game. but if we asked for the truth we got banned from the forums any in game protest had all the players banned.

i love pre-cu swg it was the greatest system ever & ahead of its time with everything in it. if soe would bring it back u would see wow start to steal ideas from swg.

& yes a lawsuit needs to happen soe wont hear us on any forums or their little fanfair. they will hear us in court & see that the pre-cu is the system that should come back.

pre-cu comes back i know 300k players will resub that night.

Whatever, it's clear there is no getting though to you all.  I know people who used to post/whine on the SWG forums daily about how the game "needed fixing" and then after the NGE are constant "bring back the old SWG it was the bestest gamez everz" posters.

SWG was a mess.  It needed fixing.  The CU didn't help.

Don't try and pretend it was the holy grail of MMORPGs.  If you loved it that much you should have been making this much fuss about how much you loved it when you had the chance.

 
Originally posted by iwantmyswg   ...(SWG was) namely the greatest mmo that would had been better if left alone.

OKAY, SWG was a mess, a big fat mess.  It needed fixing and SOE tried to do that, they screwed up but they at least tried, they didn't do it to kill the game.  What half of you whining SOE haters seem to forget or ignore was SWG was a mess and broken, it was losing players and was well known as a bug ridden mess.

GET over it, SWG was already dying and SOE tried to fix it.  It was NOT this amazing game that you all keep making out it was.

And then add to that the fact that the very nature of MMOs is change, like I said before; you wouldn't sue Blizzard because of major class changes.

Originally posted by stevesmithjr

What part of STFU and GTFO did you not understand?

It's funny but we've been saying that to you SOE haters for years, only most of us have been saying it without dropping to the point of insults and "pretend" cussing.  Maybe if most of you didn't act like babies throwing rattles we'd listen to you more.

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Originally posted by Moirae

No kidding. This is ridiculous. Its a bloody game. Get over it.

If bought windows xp..installed it. Worked ok for years. Downloaded an update for it that said it would make it better and it changed it to windows 95 would you say get over it its just an Operating system. I know its not the same thing really...but they are a business and we are consumers. the fact that its a game is irrelevent. Why do people get upset about discussing their rights? I DONT want or think SOE should be sued. However, I think is wise to educate ourselves for the future. If companies know their customers know their rights, they're less likely to to act in unethical ways.

Look, no offence but if in your words you "know it's not the same" why use it as a point at all.  The fact of the matter is that they didn't do anything like change Windows XP to 95, they changed the way you engage in combat in a game.  They didn't do it to upset people, they didn't do it because they thought it was a funny way to ruin the game they THOUGHT they were helping to fix a broken mess of a game.  It was a big mistake, it's been said by SOE already that they see it was a big mistake and that they have learned from it.  EQ2 just happens to be one of the only MMORPGs I know of where the players are really listened to.

We don't get upset about people discussing their rights, we get SICK of the same old SOE whines day in and day out.  MMORPGs change EVERY day, it's the nature of the beast, this class gets a buff, that class gets a nurf and so on.  The only leg I really see people having to stand on over all this is the way people felt mislead over the Trials expansion.

Originally posted by Esquire1980

...with this type of consumer fraud.

Jessh you SWG cry babies REALLY need to get over this, REALLY need to get over it.  Lets sue SOE and then while we're at it why don't a few people sue Blizzard because their Rogue got "nurfed" and so on and so on.

Dear Gods.

Originally posted by nirvanarocks

You guys don't understand that technology HAS to progess. And it WILL progess. Vista and DX10 may of come in a little bit early but its the next step in technology. why are u trying to push it away. u should be embracing something new which is going to make the new games 10x better than anything now.

This isn't progress, DX9 can do everything that DX10 can do, DX10 just does it with a better FPS.  As pointed out there is no reason for DX10 being Vista only anymore, it's just locking people into Vista for the sake of Microsoft making more cash and pushing their new operating system.  Microsoft still claim that DX10 wouldn't work in XP, and I wonder where I've heard that before.  OH yes that's right I heard it from Microsoft when they claimed that Internet Explorer and MSN couldn't be removed from XP and look what happened there.

Originally posted by gamerman98

Shadowrun for the 360 is cross platform.. ppl on vista and 360 can play together.

That can't be fun on the 360 without a mouse/keyboard.