All Posts by Demz2

Jesus its like any game, people who sit at theircomputers 24/7.  The average joe will not do it, so it makes no differance.

Originally posted by GunnerMan

Yeah I am lvl 19 nearly 20 finished noob island quests but wanted to get to 20 before I continuie. Anyways if you like the atmosphere you im sure you will love it. I tried wow and I am sure it has some great gameplay and great fun but for me I need to get immersed to get into it and have fun. Wows outdated graphics and sound didnt work out for me. Im used to zoneing from GW but i would take superior environment with zones over an open world that looks like it belongs on a Win 95 machine anyday.

I just hope AoCs endgame stuff is as cool/fun as they have made it look.

Your telling me you feel immersed in Aoc lifless zones and all instanceed zones? with constant loading screens.  yes that sure is some great immersion.

Originally posted by olddaddy

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Sorry when did Aoc become a PVP game????? you call ganking on a pvp server pvp?  Hell the wow haters stated for years and the aoc fanbois said ganking isnt pvp its for carebears.  So what pvp game are u tlaking about.  WEll if aoc is a pvp game then wow must be then, because on the pvp servers you can do all the ganking you want.

 

AOC is a PvP game. If you are on a PvE server, endgame consists of going out into the Border Lands, participating in building/holding a guild city, or attacking a guild city. Certain high grade crafting recipes can only be manufactured at guild city facilities. Leveling in AOC is faster than in PvE games to get the player to the PvP endgame.

This is similiar to POTBS, which is also a PvP game. If you are a PvE player in POTBS you reach the level cap quickly and run out of things to do, unless you want to engage in port battles and red circle PvP.

Interestingly, in POTBS the risk vrs reward is off balance, and discourages "fair" 1 v 1 PvP, so ganking is popular. In AOC there is limited PvP risk, which one would think would lead to more "fair" 1 v 1 PvP.

However, maybe that doesn't happen becuase players just have too much fun griefing others?

 

Hahahaha please dont make me laugh. You cant atatck guild cities first of all.  Secondly u can attack battle keeps if a guild ever manages to get one with only 48 people.  So besides that where is the pvp game?  If you call having a bk zone which looks liek crap and is heavily instanced then we may as well call AV in wow a godly pvp game.  Guild cities are a joke, only time will tell what battle keeps tur out like.  Damn sure as hell I havnt seen any pvp game thus far.  Unless you talk about ganking.  Which you can do on any game with a pvp server.  So I say again where the hell is the pvp game.

If anything Daoc pvp totally destroys Aoc everything is based around pvp.  Aoc is not a pvp game and is not next gen.  The ideas behind SB and Daoc are next gen.  SB ideas are next gen but poorly executed.  In no way is Aoc a pvp game.

Originally posted by Ghost12

Originally posted by Ozmodan

If you don't like linear games like Dungeon Siege, don't even bother with AoC.   This game is closer to Guild Wars than a MMO with all the instancing.   Not sure what Funcom was trying to do with this game, but I think a good portion of those trying it will not stick around past 30 days.

Ive been reading many good reviews of the game which tell me otherwise. Looking at the videos that have been posted of people playing, the game looks QUITE fun.

Anyone who thinks AoC will change Wow is going to be in for a big surprise.   I have heard the game opens up after level 60, but I don't think I will stick around to experience that.

So then how can you give a fair judgement of the game if you dont experience all of it?

My old Wow guild got together(none of us have played Wow for over a year btw), we have been anticipating playing AoC for some time, we thought this would be the game.  All of us are very disappointed.  We thought this game would be like Wow where you could level together.  Instead it is more a soloer's paradise, if you like linear progression that is. 

You thought the game would be like WoW? ROFL.

While the game is beautiful, there are invisible walls everywhere so you can't stray off the path.  Once past level 20, the quests are quite monotonous and offer very little in the way of originality.

The invisible wall problem is something that is very dissapointing, I'll give you that.

Now to the pvp aspect, all of us in the gulid enjoy pvp, a lot of us started in UO and let me say that even it's heyday the ganking in UO can never hold a candle to the ganking going on on the pvp servers in AoC.    We just stopped playing on the pvp servers yesterday, the ganking just got too much to take.  We got further with our characters on the pve server anyways.

Okay, this is what pisses me off. AoC is a PVP CENTERED MMO. You seem to forget that simple fact, ESPECIALLY if your playing on a PvP server which you obviously are. In a PvP server, expect to get ganked, especially if you are in a highly populated zone. Since you are playing with all the other people that rushed to buy the game when it first came out. So guess what?

You guessed it. Since you are probably mindlessly grinding away at PvE like a sheep back in WoW, youre going to get your ass handed to you in ganks. And it really annoying to read posts like these where people probably arent thinking when they are playing a FFA PvP game such as this.

For most of us, part of the fun of a MMO is going out and exploring, well you can forget that in this game, unless it really does open up after 60, but who in the heck wants to wait that long? 

I don't know what you were thinking Funcom, but I would sure like to know why you thought linear progression and massive instancing would be a winning solution. 

By the way, on the instancing issue...

Because of the massive influx of players in zones, the game automatically creates new areas, or as we call it, "instances". This is nothing abnormal and it keeps everyone from crashing. You have to understand that with the large amount of people in these zones, you are going to experience alot of instancing in a brand new MMO such as AoC.

Our entire guild is going to wait for War in the fall, this game in our opinion completely misses what a good MMO needs.

So if you like being lead by the hand in a linear progression manner and enjoy most of the areas being instanced, have it.  This is your type of game. 

This game is about as far from being a Sandbox as you can get. 

Well, gosh man, where did you get the idea that the game was sandbox? Sandbox is a far out idea that has been lost in time.

 

Sorry when did Aoc become a PVP game????? you call ganking on a pvp server pvp?  Hell the wow haters stated for years and the aoc fanbois said ganking isnt pvp its for carebears.  So what pvp game are u tlaking about.  WEll if aoc is a pvp game then wow must be then, because on the pvp servers you can do all the ganking you want.

Originally posted by Nightsorrow

 

Originally posted by coffee

To the guys who say "omg all my gear becomes obsolete every few months or when an expansion hit"... welcome to lvl based mmos.... if you dont understand the concept by now then give up now.

 

I understand that they will reset everyone's gear to the same level every patch so I gave up.

And not every MMOs will wipe your effort every patch.

What?  Seriusoly this forums gets more and more bizzare everyday.  While you whine and bitch wow gets tronger while other mmos get weaker.  instead of starting wow dieing threads everyone should start what mmo will kill vanguard eq2 lotro etc etc etc.  If anything all these games are closer to dying from new mmos getting released than wow.

Originally posted by nemo38

Centhan, I'm sure he was referring to the ideas taken from the LOTR books and the ideas from the basic board game of DOD. 

jesus christ eveverythignt akes ideas from soemthing, thats the way the world works.  jesus all games movies stories etc etc etc, take form somewhere.  ideas can be taken and interperted differently like every single bloody game ever made, and story and movie.  jesus christ who the hell cares if its an orc or an elf.  because lotro sucks so does ddo.  So warcrfat uses elves and oprcs, who the hell bloody cares, as long as its a good damn game.  I wouldnt care if they used bloody pigs as cpcs or characters as long as the game was good.  

And also whoever said WOw was carebear is a damn joker, compared to aoc its l0ooks godly.  Questing is handed to you on a plate, pvp is just gankign so much for all the whiners complaining about wows pvp servers being just ganking. 

Aoc is more carebear than wow ever was and will be, atleast when wow started up even in the forst month there were huge world pvp raids on cities and towns all over the world.  The fact Aoc is all damn instanced your makes a mocekry of all the world pvp.  The only world pvp is ganking lol.. Heaven only knows what the Epic 48 v 48 lol sieges will be like, next gen mmo wow killing pvp game my arse. 

Originally posted by bjornarg

There will always be people who find ways to rocket through the levels. As long as the casual pace is ok, I see now problem with it though.

What's the record in WOW now from 1-70? 1 day and 4 hours or so?

yeah thats a record set by people who have nothign better to do.  The average joe wont sit at their computer all dya and do nothign else.

Hahahah better than wow, domt make me laugh.

Get past lvl 30 and then see how awful the ame is.  The zones are nothing short of dire and bland.  Blizzard attention to detail in everything they do in their zones and eveytrhing is why they are at the top.  Look at aoc zones after lvl 30 and see how much work they need doing.

Playing in an isntanced game world is good?  Selecting numbered instanced zones to join, just so that u can see your own guild is cool?  Sorry thought it was meant to be next gen and not GW, my mistake well just waiting for the loading screen to finish lol.

Originally posted by shukes33

You do all realise that the cafes that allow people to play wow in asia when they feel like it are actualy paid for subs dont you? these cafes pay a subscription for thier accounts too.

Also why do people think its an insult to call a game simplistic? think celotape people..one of the most simplistic designs ever but also one of the most useful. Dont get me wrong i dont like wow..but not because of anything other than preference. i played it for 12 months and came to understand that it is a very solid game. yes simple. yes simplistic graphics, but also graphics that are very well designed. Wow is not a bad game at all, its a very good game and a solid performer. dont get so upset when people say it's simplistic. It's an actual compliment whether meant or not.

People that see simplistic as bad are just a little short sighted. like the old football/rugby argument. rugby is more technical than football. yes it's true. but as a sport the simple rules of football attract much more people than rugby. Simple = better. best designs are simple and cheap.

still prefer the more depth to EQ though :) but thats just personal prefference nothing to do with technical feats :).

 

Exactly, simple means well designed, you dont have to start over complicating things to make things good.  That is what alot of people dotn realise.  Wow is a very well designed game thats why idiots think its simple. 

Originally posted by airstrike

Originally posted by coffee

 Epic FAIL at a epic degree,why is SWG and VG even there,EVE is a completly different gender MMOG and AoC isnt even out.

Only thing that fails is your sense of humour.  Not suprising tbh, the wow haters on this site lost their senses along time ago.

Originally posted by rav3n2

I really hoped people realized by now that to reproduce wow's success in any other mmo, it would have to be the same in core and that is what you guys say is bad and dont wanna see in the new mmo's, like some people say its like CS alot of people picked it up because it doesnt require a PhD in Astrophysics.

-Very Low system requirements

-Very simplistic gameplay (we all know wow is very simplistic one or 2 button mashing)

-A massive array of relatively easy to get achievements and rewards that will make you noted by the community AKA increase you e-pen.

-A company willing to spend alot of millions developing it

-NOT mature rated

These days and after WoW was released and to catch the attention of the "new born" mmo players an mmo has to cather for these things if it doesnt it wont get the attention of the millions of people that play it.

Note i didnt mention wow killer because well thats just a retarded statement, WoW didnt kill any other game to get its player base, it did on the other hand attract a new array of players to the mmo gaming scene because of all its core concepts stated above, if the next gen mmo is gonna ignore them then it wont cather for the demands of these new players.

never read so much crap in ym life, you think because wow is a very well produced game its simplistic?  Its called good bloody design thats why you think its simple you idiot.

Hahaha pure jokes.

This site failed to deliver along long time ago.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Happy your enjoying it, maybe share a pint in the Rum n Rumble at release :)

Im sure that there are people out there with the technical issues that can be most upsetting, however I just find the whole game engaging. I still havent found anyone that looks like my character in game.

Same old Avery, Fanboi till the bitter end.  Lol you hacnt seen people that look exactly liek you?  lol are you playing the same game as me?  Ive sene people running around with same weapons swords helms everything.

They are most likely smoking the failure of Failcom.  They must be woundering what all the hype was about infact I doubt it even bothered them lol.  Another 1 bites the dust lol.

10 blizzard- 0 the rest.

Lotro-Failure so called wow killer we were told by the faonbois

TR - another next gen wow killer we were told

PoTBS- for months told by fanbois it will revolutionise the mmo market

Aoc- lol next gen wow killer LMAO, after countless delays.

Vanguard-wow killer yeah right, but still a seamless world compared to Aoc lol.

War- Delays and more delays wont be released until mid next year if then lol.

EQ2-Failure

Marvel online-Microsoft were so scared they scrapped it lol, now crytpitc going the same route and even more boring than b4.

Fury-Folded

ETC ETC ETC ETC

while you keep saying wow will die, it goes from strength to strength.  While all the other games die lol.  What game will die first you should ask besides from wow lol.  The only thing ever going to destroy wow will be Blizzards next mmo and thats a few years away, so like all things have cycles wow will gradually slow down in momentum.

Originally posted by XImpalerX

   Diablo and Starcraft is what launched WoW into success. Blizzard already was a Multi-million dollar gaming company with huge titles under their belt before WoW was released.

  So in other words, WoW had a huge budget and some of the best talent at their disposal. I still believe that the reason WoW did so great is, if you look back at what MMO's were on the market in 2004 before WoW was released, you had what? DAoC, Lineage 2,Asheron's Call 2, I think maybe EvE online was out but it wasn't very popular.Most of us were still playing EQ.

  So yes, WoW was the first true Next Gen MMO that was presented in a bold and beautiful fantasy setting that just felt and looked Epic. It had most of the features past MMO's had, but they did it in a way that was really fun. WoW is fun, flashy, full of people, and caters to casual play, thus letting gamers who may have never played an MMO or maybe knew what MMO's were about and thought that they were boring and took a lifetime to get anywhere or were just for nerds, it hooked them and hooked them good.

    I bought a copy of WoW on launch day and was so drawn to it that I quit the day job I had just to play it for a month straight. No game has ever made me feel like that in the past or present.

   Now that WoW is so popular and mainstream people will love to hate it just for that reason.

People like to bash WoW for various reasons, but WoW will always be the game that launched this era of MMO gamers and showed the world that were here and not going anywhere.

   If any analogy is to be used it would be:

"Smoking Marijuana is a Gateway Drug" is to

"Playing WoW is a Gateway MMO"

People who in which WoW was their first MMO are wanting more. Maybe they gave everquest a shot or any older MMO just to see where WoW's roots are laid and came away from it in hopes that a future game will have some of these features and qualities us mmo vets have grown to love.

You do realise Wow has the biggest eq, eq2, swg, daoc etc etc etc refugee playerbase of any mmo?  After they all failed LOL.

Why not a Thundercats mmo?  Why not a A team mmo?  why not a post man pat mmo?  Why not a Knight rider mmo?  Why not a visionaries mmo?  Why not a smurfs mmo?  Why not a he man mmo?  Why not a transformers mmo?  Why not pokemon mmo?  Why not a 50 cent mmo?  Why not a shut your role mmo?

Jesus the amount of people that keep saying you need to do this, delete that go into this folder turn this of, do that of this.  If the game worked we shouldnt have to do anything with our systems or the game files or any other files or system processes.  The fact the game is poorly designed shows how inept Failcom actually are.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

I will use a new guild named:

the trash bin kin

Because that's where Conan will be in about 6 weeks time...

Trying to make a MMORPG with only preloaded zones, what were they thinking?

Now I am very curious how they will implement "open world" PVP sieges with such a system.

Hey guys at FunCOM...  you can't have preloaded player graphics in seamless worlds !!!

Jesus I thought I had seen everyhting in MMO land, but this beats everyhting. The fact that Funcom even admits this on these official webpages is ... just incredible.

 

 

Hahahah so true, this game just makes me laugh.  Next gen, revolutionary wow killer?????  They really had alot of people fooled with that one. Good joke Funcom.