All Posts by Demz2

Originally posted by kazson

 

Originally posted by SignusM

Why was that even worth mentioning? Sounds just like any other MMO to me.

not really when you look at it....only 2 major MMO releases in the last 3 years had this degree of end game at *launch*

 

Vanguard and Eq2..

WoW didnt, Tabula Rasa didnt DDO didnt and Lotro didnt

Plus im trying to post something that doesnt have to do with fileplanet and beta keys lol

vanguard and EQ2 LMAO????

ARE U REALLY BEING SERIUOS?

You think vanguard had any endgame at launch or even now, and EQ2 at lauch, newsflash, it took EQ2 2+ to fix the pile of crap that it was and still continues to be.

Originally posted by tkreep

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by coffee

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by Gishgeron

 

Originally posted by coffee

 

Originally posted by AranStormah

There's going to be a Warhammer 40.000 MMO. If you enjoyed Starcraft because of the scifi setting and plot, then you'll like 40k too (SC started out in the 40k universe but couldn't afford a license. Hence the great likeness bewteen protoss/eldar, zerg/tyranids, terran/imperium). It's the same thing, but with more guns and more aliens.

SC was never ment to be WH40k... unless you can post evidence.  and neither was WC.

 

SC just has the 3 base races for a sci-fi... the human, the bug like aliens and the advaned alien race.

 

  I wont say anything about SC being a WH40K (though it obviously borrows elements, which is normal for Blizzard...they are really good at taking ideals and making them rock) but Warcraft was, MOST DEFINITELY, originally supposed to be WH.  Blizzard was working with the Warhammer guys before they branched off and made warcraft, the success from which spurred the companies self-reliance and eventual stature in the industry.

  I'm not going to post "proof".  Its called google, and you can find the "proof" without any real effort.  It will be on the first page, probably the first link even.  This is well known stuff, its not some hidden secret...Blizzard has been open about their past deals with Warhammer several times.

Warcraft 1 WAS supposed to be Warhammer RTS at first. The whole artwork, units etc WERE developed for Warhammer RTS. But Games Workshop cancelled their offer and Blizzard was forced to make a new world BASED on the units/abilities/campaign that were originally made for Warhammer, because it was already all set up.

I say again please post proof of this.. dont just assume.

Do you want me to send you a copy of an old PC game magazine from year 1994 (Not in English language) ?

 

Please do, and while your at it, how is Vanguard? lol

Thillian your hate for blizzard is unparalleled.  Anything you say and state cant be believed even if you present your twisted so called proof.  Please if you can show all the information you can to back up your claims, also show any proof if GWS felt it was stolen.  If its not tradmarked copyrighted, patented whatever there is no steal, alsowhy didnt they just sue them if its so obviuos?  BECAUSE TO ME YOU ARE JUST SAYING BECAUSE WOW HAS ORCS AND HUMANS ITS A RIPOFF.    Would it matter to you, if the elves or orcs were named dark elves and painted red and yellow?  Get a grip thillina, and also get a relaity check.

Its true though warcraft was supposed to be a warhammer rts till it was cancelled, and blizzrd took it and made wc.

I think the whole internet knows what  you calim to be true, yet post proof.  If GWS had any prrof or any legal standing they would have sued blizzard for millions and yes millions beyonds anyones dreams, maybe even blilions.  They knopw they have no legal proof.  yet the only people that claim  they have prrof iss the people on the internet thatd espise blizzard so much, that they think anyone spreads on the intrnet is true.  

Where did warhammer get humans and orcs and elves from?  You thnk GWS  just magically pulled them out of their arses?  Blizzard may have at one time a ver very long time ago been trying to make a game based on warhammer, but like all things it may have not worked out, so yes thye make their own game.

You think anything in champions online is not stolen?  lol they were making the game using marvel chacarters,  Yopu think anything in eve is new, Infact if you want to go down to it you think Star wars is original the story?  Star wars is based on a 1950's japanese shogun movie.  The only person that can ever sue anyone is the person if he thinks they copied him that thought up elves and orcs etc, and still eh cant sue them if he dosnt have the rights and all the legal papers.  You think the creators of batman and superman got the money they wanted after selling the rights to WB? 

Lest just say griefing and ganking will be rampant on the FFA pvp servers, which will lead to them dying and having a very very low population.    FFA trully will destroy both the pvp servers in this game.

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by coffee

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by Gishgeron

 

Originally posted by coffee

 

Originally posted by AranStormah

There's going to be a Warhammer 40.000 MMO. If you enjoyed Starcraft because of the scifi setting and plot, then you'll like 40k too (SC started out in the 40k universe but couldn't afford a license. Hence the great likeness bewteen protoss/eldar, zerg/tyranids, terran/imperium). It's the same thing, but with more guns and more aliens.

SC was never ment to be WH40k... unless you can post evidence.  and neither was WC.

 

SC just has the 3 base races for a sci-fi... the human, the bug like aliens and the advaned alien race.

 

  I wont say anything about SC being a WH40K (though it obviously borrows elements, which is normal for Blizzard...they are really good at taking ideals and making them rock) but Warcraft was, MOST DEFINITELY, originally supposed to be WH.  Blizzard was working with the Warhammer guys before they branched off and made warcraft, the success from which spurred the companies self-reliance and eventual stature in the industry.

  I'm not going to post "proof".  Its called google, and you can find the "proof" without any real effort.  It will be on the first page, probably the first link even.  This is well known stuff, its not some hidden secret...Blizzard has been open about their past deals with Warhammer several times.

Warcraft 1 WAS supposed to be Warhammer RTS at first. The whole artwork, units etc WERE developed for Warhammer RTS. But Games Workshop cancelled their offer and Blizzard was forced to make a new world BASED on the units/abilities/campaign that were originally made for Warhammer, because it was already all set up.

I say again please post proof of this.. dont just assume.

Do you want me to send you a copy of an old PC game magazine from year 1994 (Not in English language) ?

Please do, and while your at it, how is Vanguard? lol

Thillian your hate for blizzard is unparalleled.  Anything you say and state cant be believed even if you present your twisted so called proof.  Please if you can show all the information you can to back up your claims, also show any proof if GWS felt it was stolen.  If its not tradmarked copyrighted, patented whatever there is no steal, alsowhy didnt they just sue them if its so obviuos?  BECAUSE TO ME YOU ARE JUST SAYING BECAUSE WOW HAS ORCS AND HUMANS ITS A RIPOFF.    Would it matter to you, if the elves or orcs were named dark elves and painted red and yellow?  Get a grip thillina, and also get a relaity check.

hahaha, all I can say is shes hot

Originally posted by ASmith84

First off learn to spell.

I agree that warcraft ruined the mmo genre. Most mmo's now are just how much time you spent on the game and not about if you are actually good at it (in other words have skill in it). My dream is to witness a mmo that is all skill based and not level based cause levels only show how long you played.

Wtf u think an mmo is?  its not a bloody action or fps game where u play 5 minutes a day.  Its a world where people can spend years and years in, so yes they achieve something by spending time within the game.  I suggest you play a fps game if u want real hardcore skill, unless your totally crap at fps games, which mean you have no skill to start of with. 

The only reason wow added epics for everyone to get, is so that people would stop complaining about the grind and it being a 24/7 job.  Now that they made it easier for casuals to get items, you complain its now easy, there is no bloody pleasing alot of people here.  before it was we hate the grind the 40 man raid, wow listened and lowered the level raid cap and gave epics to eevyone so everyone didnt feel left out, and now they give casuals and hardcore what they wanted , you still complain, I suggest you play a game where there is no lvl cap or wepaon cap or armour advantage,  and NEWSFLASH THAT A FUUCKING FPS GAME.

See how long you lats in an FPS game agaisnt pros. 

Blizzard are working on a top secret new mmo atm, but nobody knows anything about it except blizzard.

Originally posted by templarga

 

jesus what eevr you want to call it if it has numbers and loading screen its an instance to me.

 

Example.  Tortage the first day when all the noobs will be running around in 1 starter area, you think they will be running around all altogether?  You think it takes alot for a zone to get full?  GB has 100x less people and each zone is copied rampant.  Infact yes true obviusoly you will see peopel when the zones not copied and full.  TBH  i cant think of anything in the game thats not 100% instanced or has a loading screen.

 

they will be in copied versions of that zone in instanced copies of that zone, so you wil get torateg 1 tortage 2 etc etc tec.  So in my terminoloy its instanced and zoned.   same with BK and every zone on the godaman map.

 

Wow did you even read the OP's post and ANY interviews with the devs? And just because you have your own inaccurate terminology doesn't make it the case.

 

Yes the game is zoned. And by zones I mean the real game world is divided into sections like EQ and even to an extent DAOC (you zoned into the realms or dungeons for example). I have no issue with zones because it allows the game to run better and it will help performance. I can't imagine AOC without zones; the computer needed to run it would fall into the "1% of the population can afford it" or "hasn't been invented yet" ala EQ2 at launch.

Mentioning EQ2, many of the zones in AOC will make copies of themselves. I will not call these instances because when I think of instances I think of WOW and their model. SO there will be zone1, zone2 and zone3. Its the same in EQ2 - you would have Commonlands1 and so on when those zones get full; again technology used to handle server load.

Now instancing is limited to very little in AOC if you think of it in the way of WOW. Yes the pvp mini-games are instanced but thats because they are games and designed to be balanced and fun. Other than the game's objective, it has no bearing on the world. The best way to think of it is like Unreal Tournament style of games. That to me is instancing.

Guild/player cities will be the same way. But not battle keeps.

Now as for PVP, it might be instanced as in you zone into it (mainly for server load and such) but once you do its one big battle. I doubt there will be multiple instances of the same zone. It is is impossible because all the attacking guild would do is attack in one copy and all the defenders defend another. That makes no sense. SO it will be just the one copy and by definition, that is not an instance. A zone yes but not an instance.

And finally, if you have such an issue with the game, seriously don't play.

Instances in wow are bloody raid dungeons and BG, im not tlaking about instances like that im tlaking about the game world being sinatnced like EQ2, where it will be copied and then instanced so you will have numbers like tortage 1 and tortage 2, and yes this is a fact and yes this is an instance, like the person said what ever  way want to call its, its all semantics.

Originally posted by Cloudink

How can you say WAR is a clone of WoW, when Blizzard has copied everything from Games Workshop.

And considering that WoW is a new game compared to DAoC/EQ1/AC would that not make WoW a hybrid clone of those three games, based of the IP from Warhammer(gamesworkshop) ?

lest see

pvp in games not original

Factions in games not original.

quests not orignial

lveles in games not original.

These games have copied from previuos games even if they were not mmos, all things are looked at and decided what can be improved on.  Jesus christ none of thses games have anything original.  RTS, FPS RPG, ACTION, pLATFORM ETC ETC ETC HAVE HAD THEM B4 MMOS.

Originally posted by gath

For the record, WarHammer existed before WoW was created.

The original Warcraft: Orcs vs Humans had ALOT of stolen ideas of WarHammer.

Oh god please for the love of god dont start that. 

Lotro had orcs and humans.

D&D

etc etc etc

many games after both warhammer and wow have orcs and humans, jesus christ, everything in the world borrows from 1 thing or another.  Get over it its the way of the world nothing is original.  The only things original were when they invented them back hundreds and thousands of years ago.   Even then people copied and looked at other peoples ideas.

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

I heard that the PVP was instanced - is this true?

There is a sticky at the top of these forums. Only pvp that is instanced is the mini games.

 

Avery  the facts you get are so wrong its untrue, you just make things up as you go along, are you actually in beta?  or you arnt and you have no clue but just go about what you read and google up?

Why dont you go read the sticky which also has Athelan's radio interview which explains it all.

 

Border Kingdoms are a zone, there were massive posts on this on the official forum with clarification.

Or arent you aware of whats going on?

 

Its an instanced  zone avery.   The only one that not aware of whats going on is Funcoms biggest fanboi, namely yourself, Ben.

Impossible. If there were any instancing involved, there would be no point, as the instance would vanish when empty.

 

The border regions exist simply to consolidate the territorial PVP areas into one place. Otherwise, we get what we had in AO with the damn towerfields cluttering up the landscape.

The whole point is to have permenant, tangible real-estate to conquer and control. An instanced system would undermine this.

 

lol the instance would vanish?  its a permanent zone, but when u enter it its an instanced copy, so like EQ2 you will eb in an instanced copy of the same zone, and like GW. so no its  seamless and where eevr u go u can gank and play with your friends.  You can only see people if they are in the same instance as you.

If it were an "instance", and became empty, it would vanish, according to the definition of the terminology. An instance only "spawns" when there is someone to occupy it.

 

Outdoor areas, including the border regions, are ZONED, not INSTANCED. This simply means that they are broken up into smaller sections to help alleviate lag (Ala AO). This has been more or less confirmed by a DEV.

 

jesus what eevr you want to call it if it has numbers and loading screen its an instance to me.

Example.  Tortage the first day when all the noobs will be running around in 1 starter area, you think they will be running around all altogether?  You think it takes alot for a zone to get full?  GB has 100x less people and each zone is copied rampant.  Infact yes true obviusoly you will see peopel when the zones not copied and full.  TBH  i cant think of anything in the game thats not 100% instanced or has a loading screen.

they will be in copied versions of that zone in instanced copies of that zone, so you wil get torateg 1 tortage 2 etc etc tec.  So in my terminoloy its instanced and zoned.   same with BK and every zone on the godaman map.

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

I heard that the PVP was instanced - is this true?

There is a sticky at the top of these forums. Only pvp that is instanced is the mini games.

 

Avery  the facts you get are so wrong its untrue, you just make things up as you go along, are you actually in beta?  or you arnt and you have no clue but just go about what you read and google up?

Why dont you go read the sticky which also has Athelan's radio interview which explains it all.

 

Border Kingdoms are a zone, there were massive posts on this on the official forum with clarification.

Or arent you aware of whats going on?

 

Its an instanced  zone avery.   The only one that not aware of whats going on is Funcoms biggest fanboi, namely yourself, Ben.

 

Border kingdoms are just a zone, like any other zone, not somthing special, this has been confirmed months back.

 

-Jive

yes they are a zone, but like every zone in the game its instanced what part of that dont you understand?  You will have multiple copies of the zone.  So i repeat again is instanced.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

I heard that the PVP was instanced - is this true?

There is a sticky at the top of these forums. Only pvp that is instanced is the mini games.

 

Avery  the facts you get are so wrong its untrue, you just make things up as you go along, are you actually in beta?  or you arnt and you have no clue but just go about what you read and google up?

Why dont you go read the sticky which also has Athelan's radio interview which explains it all.

 

Border Kingdoms are a zone, there were massive posts on this on the official forum with clarification.

Or arent you aware of whats going on?

 

Its an instanced  zone avery.   The only one that not aware of whats going on is Funcoms biggest fanboi, namely yourself, Ben.

Keeps are not an instance. The border kingdoms are a zone, incorparting atzels approach. Point Im getting at is that the keeps (massive PVP) are not instanced themselves: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=38043

Svery the keeps arnt instanced they will be in the zone, but the whole BK like every zone is instanced, so yes pvp is instanced.

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

I heard that the PVP was instanced - is this true?

There is a sticky at the top of these forums. Only pvp that is instanced is the mini games.

 

Avery  the facts you get are so wrong its untrue, you just make things up as you go along, are you actually in beta?  or you arnt and you have no clue but just go about what you read and google up?

Why dont you go read the sticky which also has Athelan's radio interview which explains it all.

 

Border Kingdoms are a zone, there were massive posts on this on the official forum with clarification.

Or arent you aware of whats going on?

 

Its an instanced  zone avery.   The only one that not aware of whats going on is Funcoms biggest fanboi, namely yourself, Ben.

Impossible. If there were any instancing involved, there would be no point, as the instance would vanish when empty.

 

The border regions exist simply to consolidate the territorial PVP areas into one place. Otherwise, we get what we had in AO with the damn towerfields cluttering up the landscape.

The whole point is to have permenant, tangible real-estate to conquer and control. An instanced system would undermine this.

lol the instance would vanish?  its a permanent zone, but when u enter it its an instanced copy, so like EQ2 you will eb in an instanced copy of the same zone, and like GW. so no its  seamless and where eevr u go u can gank and play with your friends.  You can only see people if they are in the same instance as you.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

I heard that the PVP was instanced - is this true?

There is a sticky at the top of these forums. Only pvp that is instanced is the mini games.

 

Avery  the facts you get are so wrong its untrue, you just make things up as you go along, are you actually in beta?  or you arnt and you have no clue but just go about what you read and google up?

Why dont you go read the sticky which also has Athelan's radio interview which explains it all.

 

Border Kingdoms are a zone, there were massive posts on this on the official forum with clarification.

Or arent you aware of whats going on?

Its an instanced  zone avery.   The only one that not aware of whats going on is Funcoms biggest fanboi, namely yourself, Ben.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Sam123jo0123

I heard that the PVP was instanced - is this true?

There is a sticky at the top of these forums. Only pvp that is instanced is the mini games.

Avery  the facts you get are so wrong its untrue, you just make things up as you go along, are you actually in beta?  or you arnt and you have no clue but just go about what you read and google up?