All Posts by Dagon13

Just curious, how do you guys with the low page file usage keep it so low?

My rig is a bit better than your's but I'll relate my experience with you in case it helps.

Opteron 175 (2.4ghz dual core)

8800GT 512mb

3 gigs RAM

With these specs I run on low-med settings with these results

~ 10 - 30 fps in open zones, depending on population/zone

~40 fps on average in solo instances

~1-8 fps in group dungeons

The game looks fine and runs alright while outdoors.  I get alot of popping in due to view distance, and some occasional stutters.  The real problem is grouping with your peers in group dungeons, IF we are the only group in the area I can function but if there are any others my framerate floors to ~1 fps until all combat ceases.  Arena pvp can cause some problems but only when both teams stick together.  The game is playable for me but sometimes I do feel like I'm locked out of some content because of my rig.

As far as other games go, I can run every other game I own on maximum, the most demanding being Oblivion, Frontlines, and Bioshock with relative ease.  I don't have a problem with the game being resource intensive, but I think the reqs they put on the box are a joke for anyone who doesn't play hermit in the mountains.

In league with your 3rd point:  I hate kilts...

Some of the other MMO's slated for release soon might play on that rig.

Wow, your experience was a bit different than mine.  After entering the cistern dungeon, the moment any combat appears on my screen my framerate floors to 1.  Grouping here was the single worst experience I have ever had on an MMO, the only time I was even able to move freely was during the camping sessions you mentioned.  I typically run between 10 fps and 30 fps depending on the situation, with medium settings tweaked to remove shadows, reflections, and lower viewing distance.

AMD Opteron 175

BFG 8800GT

3 gigs RAM

Originally posted by Ephimero

You picked 2x1 GB, I picked 2x2 GB, thus why mine was more expensive, still, the bang per buck argument prevails :P

Wow, I completely missed the boat on that one.  Yes, you win the bang per buck arguement.

Originally posted by pyrofreak

Originally posted by Ephimero

 

Originally posted by Raxus

Gosh..I'm getting more confused by the minute.

 

Do I or don't I SLI? Really kinda shy by doing RAID, like I said never done that before and kinda gun shy (but if you guys really think it's worth it I'll try).

Okay, first of all, I asked if you could wait a month cause new technologies are coming. Intel is releasing their P45 chipsets for mobos, which will support everything nvidia chipsets support, but without the overwhelming heat and in a good price.

 

Also, both Nvidia and Ati are going to release their new techs, GT200 and R700 respectively.

And, if we look at the horizont, we will have Intel's nehalems, which are meant to become mainstream in Q1 2009, those processors offer a huge increasement in performance comparing to actual processors. I'm personally waiting till january, but I guess you can't wait that much, however, I'd like to know also if you're planning on upgrading or if you just want something actual to last long.

 

And Cleffy, the Q9300 is indeed a very good one, but pricey. The performance on Q6600's with its 65nm Kentsfields is quite similar, but Q6600's is still way cheaper.

And yeah, actual Intel chipsets don't offer SLI solutions, thus why Im recommending to wait 1 month, so P45 gets released and then we will count with the best chipsets in the market.

And yeah, velociraptor is faster, then again, Im looking for a bang per buck setup since he doesn't have unlimited budget :) Anyways, are velociraptors available already? Last I heard is that alienware had an exclusive with them.

People who always wait for the next big thing never end up buying a computer.

Unfortunately I agree with you, it turns into a big waiting game.  Even major breakthroughs seem to come out yearly nowadays.

Everything I listed is meant to be together, I guess I didn't mention, but the reason I ended up posting all of the hardware was because of the RAM I suggested.  The 1066 Crucial memory I listed is cheaper than the 800 you have picked out so it can't be ruled out by the bang for the buck arguement.  RAM timings are only 1 point off in each setting and I've had actual RAM timings that vary from marketed timings anyway. 

The quad core vs dual core is a long standing arguement so you will get a different suggestion from every person you ask.  As for the Q6600 vs the Q9300, the Q6600 is a tried and true champ but the Q9300 is newer technology.  If Cleffy puts his weight behind it, I'm sure you'll be fine with either. 

Admittedly, my knowledge on hard drive configurations and mobo chipsets is limited at best.  I'm outmatched here in anything that goes beyond common sense (mabye there too ).

If this breaks down into a hardware arguement chances are high they are nitpicking between different quality hardware, so as long as you can retain their compatibility references, you are probably safe picking either side.  One more note, its not usually necessary for the standard user, or gamer for that matter, to worry about things like sli and raid.  If you build anything decent it shouldn't have a problem with any software you will be using.  I'm not argueing against the advantages of these tactics, I'm just saying they are not necessary by any means.

Here is the RAM

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820148069

My personal picks:

Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284

PSU

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817194021

CPU - any quad much better than this skyrockets in price, I'm also considering a dual core similar to your pick

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16819115017

HDD - on second thought, I might stick back with a 10,000 rpm drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136012

I also picked up an 8800GT when they hit the market.

Originally posted by Raxus

So Will I be able to play max res @ 1900x1200 on a 24" monitor with a single GFX card?

You should browse a bit more for RAM on newegg, I know there is some good Crucial memory with 1066 speeds that has a decent sale on top of a $40+ rebate.  It's a bit better than your current pick and it turns out to be about the same price if not cheaper.

Hmm what else, the aftermarket cpu cooler is unnecessary unless you plan on some OC'ing.  Market cooling should be sufficient at stock speeds.  If you do buy the aftermarket cooler get some Arctic Silver 5 thermal grease to replace the gunk that comes with it.

Do a little research on 15,000 rpm harddrives, those seem like a good combination with MMO's that you might be interested in.

You'd be better off getting tips from actual tech sites with forums like tomshardware, or anandtech.  They also have good reviews on lots of hardware that might influence your decisions.  Just remember to keep a balance between your hardware or you'll just end up wasting money on something that does nothing for performance due to bottlenecking.

Originally posted by fungistratus

It would be nice to get a reply from someone who has actually played both, not just AOC fanbois.

 

I did play Tabula Rasa, and I am currently playing AoC.  I'm telling you the features you listed as similarities are shared across far more games than just these two.  Your arguement is null in respect to the bigger picture.

AoC is similar to Tabula Rasa in the same way it is similar to every other MMO on the market.

Originally posted by BigMango

 

@ Lobotomist & Elikal,

You guys are making it way too complicated. I can understand why you don't enjoy the fighting, I would be frustrated too by doing it in the same way. As you say you can't manage 12 keys, you are staring only at the key board.

This is how I do it:

1. I move by pressing my right+left mouse buttons

2. My 3 left hand fingers are on button 1,2 and 3 to slash my sword (these are the ONLY keys needed). No other  keys are needed. You can then also dodge with double hitting a,s,d,w,s while fighting, but mainly the hand is always on 1,2,3 with asdw near by.

3. My combos are on the skill bars, I start them by clicking on them with the mouse... then follows 1,2 or 3 as required.

This way combat feels great to me, I really enjoy it. Putting your char in frenzy of defensive stances is another plus.

That is also how I played.  So long as you continue doing normal swings it works great, but the moment you try a combo you become a sitting duck.

That you did, I just wanted to reinforce the idea that Aion can still be a hit even if it has nothing new.  We won't know until the game is on the market, and I have no knowledge of any system that proves otherwise. 

I often have a hard time getting my name in any game I play.  It doesn't help the fact that it's a frequently heard name in all the Elder Scrolls games...  It helps to have a few other good names that you like for back ups just in case, just try not to steal any names you've seen others use in other games.

Anyway, the character creation in CoX is the first and only system that I've actually been able to imagine a character look, and then build it without any problems whatsoever.  The only thing that prevented me from subbing to this game after my trial was the incredibly bland and boring environment.  It was cool to run through the city at first, but after about an hour the novelty effect wore off and it all looked the same to me.  I would atleast check out Champions online if they could boast an equivilant character creation and a unique world.

I'm a furry on the inside so I'd have to choose Asmodian with some of their animal like features.  Also it's good that someone pointed out that it isn't a matter of good vs. evil factions like it is some games.  Even myself being lore ignorant, it makes sense that if Elyos are more aggressive that their cities lie in the more preferred region.  I think the good vs. evil is a bit over done and the shades of grey has more potential.  I may have just admitted that reality is more interesting than fantasy...

Mabye NCSoft is a bit embarassed after the unbelievable amount of hype richard garriot put out.  I know I was... Each time he put out something new, it was like one of those movies where you know a character is going to do something really stupid and you just can't watch... 

Originally posted by Writh

 

 All WoW did was take popular MMO features and combine them into their game. It was absolutely unoriginal down to its toes yet it did so well. Aion will feature a great deal of popularized features along with a strong PvPvE presence. But more to the point I'm really curious about this MMO with a self running faction because I'd love to play it while I wait for Aion.

P.S. WoW invented the internet too

 

 

Your very first sentance in this paragraph is the perfect description of a good IT project.  For example just look at the iPod or the iPhone.  They popped a hard drive into an mp3 player instead of using flash memory and bam, top selling product.  Same thing with the iPhone, lots of different technologies combined into one device and they've got another winner.  By your description its the exact same situation with WoW.  You don't have to create something new, you just have to know how to put things together.

Failure and success are a matter of perspective, doom and gloom posts are sister to rise and shine posts, and even poor people need entertainment.  As hypocrtical as it is of me to say, you should appreciate what you have more, or atleast think about it more before you project your financial logic onto the rest of us.

Originally posted by airhead

lol.... the title "TCoS, hype, and you" made me think this could be a "group session". So let me share with the group:

I remember xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in xxxxxxx xxxxx. It was the first time I've actually xxxxxxxx anything, coming from a poor rural family in the deep south. I had just sold our second house chair to buy a new game for christmas, but held off because of this xxxxxxxxxxxxx. When xxxxxxxxxx finally came and still no xxxxxxxxxx, i was crushed, and feeling very depressed and un-entertained. The promised xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx made me think that if I ever did get xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, it would be for only a couple of xxxxxxxx. I went ahead and spent my chair money on booze. When it finally xxxxxxxxxx, it was the xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ever seen. Knowing it was not going to really xxxxxxxxxxxxx to at least xxxxxxxxxxxx, I reformed myself through a jesus (can leave that correct?) infusion and have since gotten over my mmo addiction. (but I'm still un-entertained).

Edited: for legal reasons, at Thatim's request... (thanks for the heads up)

oh yea, and the point being....

it's better to not hype at all than to hype and not deliver.

(hope this helps the forum).

This story made me very xxxxxxxx...