All Posts by forthelulz

Originally posted by teal9976

i subscribed to SWG and waited over 4 hours for it to download and install. i found that it would not update and when it finally launched, it would not connect to any server. SOE support was a waste of time. i did exactly as they said but it didn't work.  here is a heads up...SOE does not give out refunds no matter how bad they screw up. i haven't been able to use even one second of my subscription and i had to cancel it.  don't waste your time or your money with SOE

welcome to soe!

Originally posted by varrius

Is Starsider dead, though?

yes.

Originally posted by Explodingme

Tooo long.

lol too much reading?

Originally posted by kobie173

 

Originally posted by forthelulz

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by kobie173

Originally posted by spankybus

I remember my Bounty Hunter logged in (this was after NGE launched). I could no longer wear my Full RSI armor, and my pre-Cu carbine was not usable. All I saw was a bunch of people running around in Jedi clothing...I logged off and cancelled my sub.

God forbid you have to adapt.

In the case of the NGE ..god forbid ..Amen

(people don't forget  don't let the fanboi propaganda  touch you--

We where damn right back then !!!

and now watch at the desperate attempts of them and  the sorry state of the game since the wrong direction of the NGE !!!

we where damn right and don't have to eat every sh*t pill of  of a company, we don't have to adapt to erroneous states !!)

 

honestly i love that they have stepped up the trolling.......means they are getting desperate. you see the fanbois see the end is near........and they know that team toilet boy and the turds are striking out on getting the subs up. so they do what fanbois do best....complain. yes it was people like them who constantly complained about every little thing in the old game. now they have their crappy fps and nobody will play with them.........so they complain. only a fanboi would be so delusional to try to do the marketing teams job.

"so they do what fanbois do best....complain"

 

You have to be kidding me. Pot, meet kettle.

more like vet, meet troll.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by kobie173

Originally posted by spankybus

I remember my Bounty Hunter logged in (this was after NGE launched). I could no longer wear my Full RSI armor, and my pre-Cu carbine was not usable. All I saw was a bunch of people running around in Jedi clothing...I logged off and cancelled my sub.

God forbid you have to adapt.

In the case of the NGE ..god forbid ..Amen

(people don't forget  don't let the fanboi propaganda  touch you--

We where damn right back then !!!

and now watch at the desperate attempts of them and  the sorry state of the game since the wrong direction of the NGE !!!

we where damn right and don't have to eat every sh*t pill of  of a company, we don't have to adapt to erroneous states !!)

 

honestly i love that they have stepped up the trolling.......means they are getting desperate. you see the fanbois see the end is near........and they know that team toilet boy and the turds are striking out on getting the subs up. so they do what fanbois do best....complain. yes it was people like them who constantly complained about every little thing in the old game. now they have their crappy fps and nobody will play with them.........so they complain. only a fanboi would be so delusional to try to do the marketing teams job.

all kinds of trolls here today and yet not one screenie of people enjoying the game. they can troll......but thats it.

Originally posted by kobie173

This is sad. Every thread, no matter what the original post is, degrades into endless 10-page rants about how SOE and LucasArts kicked your dog, stole your girlfriend, ate your parents and otherwise ruined your lives.

GET OVER IT. It's an MMO, for the love of god. There's plenty of them out there.

I've seen people get over incredibly painful divorces in less time than it's taken many of the people around here to get over the old game.

I preferred pre-CU and the CU to the NGE, hands down, no question, but what's done is done, and all the crying over a game that ostensibly died for you two-plus years ago -- along with the constant mockery of people who perhaps still play and enjoy the game -- is rather pathetic.

we aren't going anywhere. get over it.

for epic effect: of lies,treachery, and red bull

1. SWG wont launch until its ready - SOE repeatedly told us this game wont launch until its ready to go. This early on was to include space, JTL wasnt ever supposed to be an expansion. Lets also not forget key components not included at launch like player cities, vehicles, and jedi. As a beta player, I still remember the notice in beta forum that the game was going gold in 2 weeks. Everyone agreed it was a huge mistake but SOE ignored us.

2. Jedi - We all know that jedi was NEVER possible at launch. Yet SOE made post after post dangling that carrot and offering encouragement. They told us to get married, explore every world, build a home, etc. It made some think that jedi was some random amazing quest to be discovered. Soon though we learned the truth when SOE patched in several .tre files with obvious jedi implications 5 months after launch. Then the day after a patch several unlocked all at once.

3. Rebel Theme Park - Sorta ties into # 1 as it wasnt ready either. However SOE repeatedly lied about the theme park. If you recall, it was broken after Han's quests. Han tells us to seek out Lt. Lance on Dantooine, but there isnt any Lt. Lance anywhere. SOE tells us its working as intended despite nobody having found Lt. Lance after months and month of looking (my guild personally had several major expedition searches done over many weekends looking for him). Suddenly we learn the truth after a patch...Han now tells us to seek out Ackbar on Dantooine and the once empty abandoned rebel base now has several rebel nps in there. My guild who had followed the game for years in development was soooo pissed off they immediately disbanded and quit.

4. two part lie -

A. The Combat upgrade (curb) was top priority - Remember how SOE told us over and over again that the CURB was its number 1 focus. It would be first to get completed over the JTL expansion.

B. There were two separate teams working on JTL and the CURB.

We later learn both are lies. JTL gets pushed over the combat fixes AND we find out the CURB team has been merged with the JTL team. Whats really insulting is SOE goes on a PR campaign and tells the public that we players demanded JTL first. Another fat lie as every poll posted strongly stated we wanted the CURB first.

5. Combat Revamp - whatever you want to call it, this was meant as a reward for the vets who stayed around and played a broken game. Talk about a slap in the face when SOE announces the CU...a system as the devs told me at Celebration 3 was meant to "have a more broad appeal". This was SOE's 1st attempt at screwing over its current community for the wow crowd. All the promised fixes never happened. The armorsmith rep quit and was banned after he started a massive protest over changes they never asked for. In fact the CU brings in many more bugs than it fixes and never balanced anything.

6. The CU is here to stay - Smedley comes and makes his first post on swg forums asking for calm and patience. He states that in 6 months the cu will be working as intended so give them time to make things right. FAT LIE...during that time the NGE is either in design stages or already being worked on.

7. FRS - CU disables the end-game for jedi, our force ranking system. SOE tells us its being worked on. Later they state its al most done and just awaits final approval from LA. Of course we learn there wont ever be a FRS system and the nerfs we've been getting oover the past 6 months were done on purpose to weaken jedi into a regular class. For me personally, this is one of the more disgusting lies as it was obviously done to keep us jedi players paying.

8. Jabba Palace disappears - The last patch before the NGE garbage makes Jabba's palace completely disappear. SOE acts surprised and promises a fix is coming..another fat lie as we learn why after the nge hits. Jabba's palace was taken out to implement th new nge quests.

9. village breaks - Same patch breaks the village and the old man stops visiting people. SOE again lies to cover its tracks and tells us its being looked at. Of course it was just a cover for the nge.

10. Expansion - SOE presells an expansion with several promised features. One desired item is a creature handler necklace that will allow for the taming of higher lvl pets. Im not sure if that necklace was ever found but it didnt matter because 1 stinkin day after the nge launched Torres of LA announces the revamp of the game and removal of over 24 professions.

11. starter kit - SOE tells us the starter kit is an eroneous listing and will be removed. They deny the rumors of impending changes.

12. SOE tells us fixes will be faster. SOE says the whole reason behind the nge was to make balancing the game easier and would allow for faster publish fixes. In fact, it has slowed the game down to a crawl as publishes now seem to come every 4 months as opposed to almost monthly before the nge.

13. smuggler revamp - this one could have its own page on broken promises and lies.

14. Capitol ships - a dev at a fanfest shows the players capitol ships he has been working on. Later on SOE tells (months and months later) that it was just a dev fooling around with his laptop and this was never being considered. Of course SOE could have tol the players this months earlier rather than ignore the posts asking for more information. To flyboys, the capitol ship dream was their FRS system...ie end-game content they so very much wanted. It didnt hurt SOE to once again lie a little and let people keep paying while they waited for features that would never ever happen.

15. profession revamps - ranger comes to my mind foremost because my alt was a master ranger for years. It was painful to see rangers slowly dwindling in numbers as the profession remained broken forever. I still recall one of the camo kits (i think it was for Lok) required a type of meat to contruct, only problem was that meat didnt even exist ! And the final tease, SOE says ranger is the next revamp coming in the next publish...oops the next publish turned out to be the NGE.

Then there were the professions that got sorely needed revamps weeks before the nge hit. Why did SOE even bother to revamp squad leader if they were going to turn around and remove the profession entirely a few weeks later ? Maybe it was a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing.

16. Broken quests - How many times did SOE tell us a fix was in the works and it either never came or it took a year to do. And even when they finally did fix something like the Hermit quests, they turn right around and re-break them weeks later. My personal pet peeve for broken quests was the ones at the gungan sacred place. It pissed me off that not only were the quests incomplete, one of the npc's chat bubble was blank ! How tough would it have been to code in some simple words ? These quests were broken in beta, remained busted through launch right up to the nge.

The NGE broke several old quests as well. When I tried the 21 day free trial I started the krayt skull quests, some of my favorites with a great storyline. I got to the last part where I needed to talk to Darklighter only to my surprise he has no chat option. The NGE is 1 year old and Im assuming this quest remains broken, pathetic.

17. 6 month promises - Smedley has repeatedly made the 6 month promise for fixes. His very 1st post following the CU debacle asked the players to give SOE 6 months to get things fully working. He then makes the same promise after the NGE launches, needing 6 more months. Ironically, the post after nge is almost identical to the cu one (asking for time to fix things) and yet somehow the gullible desperate players buy into it AGAIN. Later SOE promises major revamps to each profession each coming within a month or two o each other. Later after MONTHS of no publishes and silence (the swg forums were literally rioting), SOE announces yet ANOTHER series of profession revamps. Typically, the pathetic player base thanks SOE devs in posts for answering their concerns. A year into the NGE, it remains broken, unfinished, with no end in site.

18. Item Conversion - Recall that the players were very concerned over losing their gear with the coming CU. We were repeatedly told that everything would convert properly. If you had an exceptional weapon with amazing stats, it would convert to an equal type of weapon for the CU. They were full of crap though and not only did our exceptional weapons and armor NOT convert properly, in many cases we now couldnt even equip them anymore !!!

CA's and AA's didnt convert because SOE took out several stats like dizzy, knockdown, the poison and disease resists, etc. Players that spent years and millions of credits to collect were overnight ruined. The final insult in classic SOE fashion, SOE adds in melee def and ranged def clothing that tailors can craft. They didnt even bother to take into account the thousands of players who spent their credits by the millions to get these things as ca/aa drops. A +12 melee def tape would possibly sell for 15-20 million, 1 day after the cu and a player now can buy a shirt with +17 melee AND ranged defense !!! So much for really being concerned with ca/aa conversions.

RIS Armor - Not only did the conversion for this armor become crap, it also got very common. I and some friends of mine were the few around who had even had any ris armor. Before the revamps, RIS armor was something one could try and get as a trophy to their hard work and dedication. Plus it took real skill to get. You had to know where the components dropped. You had to know spawn rates. You had to know where to find the giant dune kimos. You had to find addon components like shards to boost the completed armor's stats. In essence, it was a lot of hard work for players that yet again was totally tossed out the door. My ris helmet once had offers of 15 million credits, suddenly its for sale on vendors for 15k bleh.

BE Tissues - nge takes out bio-engineers and their tissues that make chef foods better. Now something that was once extremely common is the rarest most sought after item by crafters. And since food is a consumable, eventually there will be no more bio tissues around.

The theme here of course is SOE didnt give a damn about how their revamps would hurt or help their CURRENT community. I seriously doubt based on the evidence that they even looked at the changes, much less tried to ensure the conversion wouldnt screw us.

19. pearl drops - sometime into the cu pearl drops got really messed up. At first, over a weekend flawless and premium pearls are dropping like crazy and not just off krayts. Soon SOE hotpatches a "fix" in to correct whatever they were trying to fix before and the pearls stop dropping. Now premiums and flawless dont drop anymore. SOE responds to player concerns by telling them its working as intended. Later they admit there "might" be a problem but there were other things more important to fix. SOE lies and promises its being looked into.

According to my source, the pearl drops were broken or gated on purpose. This was done to remove the elite power items so jedi could be better balanced for the nge. I hear sometime after the nge the premium pearls were added back in but flawless never came back.

20. Gating content - According to a source who wrote a letter to CBS newsbag, SOE purposely gates its content to finish it. In other words, SOE breaks something to hide the fact that it remains unfinished. Why would SOE do this ? Well according to this person, it was done to basically use player subscription fees to pay for the finished development of that content. This source reported that this was done repeatedly for EQ1 expansions. Devs would then lie on the forums claiming that a fix was being worked on when in fact it was busted on purpose.

This of course is outrageous but not unexpected by SOE. To take subscriber money and finish something that the money from the expansion was already supposed to have paid for is unforgivable. Smedley responded on some other site he posts on that this was a fabrication and SOE had (allow me to quote) never once released an unfinished product to the public LOL. This same person later admits the nge is unfinished...oh and the CU is unfinished...my oh my how the lies grow.

Originally posted by smg77

 

 

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

HOW ABOUT THE FURY OF THE GALACTIC EMPIRE

where maybe.. I don't know....

A GALACTIC CIVIL WAR HAPPENS.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I hate this game!

Exactly! Where is the instance you can go in as a stormtrooper and kill rebels or the instance where you can work with your rebel squad to covertly take down an imperial listening post? If the NGE had actually made the game more Star Warsy people might not hate it so much.

 

 

 

The NGE introduced the legacy quest: Once you get past the initial Jabba quests where is the Star Wars?

The NGE introduced heroic instances where you fight...the Tusken King and Exar Kun. Huh?

The NGE instroduced a new pvp system. Aha! Maybe we will finally get an epic battle between the rebels and the imperials. Ouch...nope we got the burned out city of Restuss filled with l33t kiddies and gankers. lol

 

The NGE just simply fails on every level.

the idea is to jam as much cannon breaking material in as possible. soon nemodians and gugans will fight over anakin's old pod racer! chap. 10!

Originally posted by salvaje

I seriously believe that some of the virulent fanbois here are either SOE employees or wannabe SOE employees.

If some of the more vocal ones aren't on someone's payroll to do what they do, they should be, and are foolish to do what they are doing for free.

 

lol! they are fighting over thundershit's old job!

Originally posted by saay

 

Originally posted by forthelulz

 

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Fishermage

Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people?

At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?

Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?

so you come here to troll disenfranchised gamers? nice to see one of you corporate fanbois admit it.

 

if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.

and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except

we come here and see corporate fanbois spewing company rhetoric to those not familiar with the game or

soe/la. "ALL IS WELL!" "REMAIN CALM!" "THE GAME IS FINE!" seriously you people should feel lousy for

letting noobs get tangled up in this trainwreck. and why? so you can have a few more noobs to gank?

sell some once cheap items for 1,000,000,000 creds? if you are so intranced by star wars then go play.

but don't expect us to sit by while you sucker noobs into this bearded lady tent.....or blast propaganda straight outta smed's mouth.

Well thats not true, you'd be here anyway, at least Slvaje and iwantmyswg would be spewing out rubbish. Its not entirely true to say anmy publicity is good publicity in this case: while the phrase has truth in it, i dont think it applies to this extent. At least you shouldnt think so since you guys encourage this hate propaganda, trying to shut the game down - if you persuaded salvaje that it was the case, then he'd stop and the world would be that little less hate-filled and false. I am pointing out that i believe the propaganda you guys produce is hurting the game especially as it is mostly untrue.

 

do you think if the same things were said about wow that it would "shut the game down?". no. because it is a quality game and no ammout of bad press can change that. and as far as propaganda goes saying

soe/la have and continue to do a lousy job....is fact. denying it is at the core of your and others obsessive

coporate fanboism.

show me screenies of hundreds enjoying the nge.

show me hundreds of "good job guys!" posts from the forums.

show me lots of posts from ANY site that covers swg where the players have good things to say about the nge.

show me vets returning to the game and STAYING.

you can't.

if the game was as fun as you claim you yourself would be playing RIGHT NOW. i know i didn't even bother signing up to any forums until soe took a dump on the players.

is it more fun to troll us vets than to play? eh? having problems finding a group? maybe you logged out because you got sick of lag? a 4 year old bug? specials not working?

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by smg77

Originally posted by 3on1

its funny to see everyone who hates this game soo much is on these forums 24/7, leave it alone or something?

bashing a game that still gets updates ^^ dont worry it will die one day, but not now or soon, live with it and play the games u enjoy atm

ow and i dont play SWG, yes i dont know how bad they it messed it up, i agree that NGE was total crap etc etc

but when a game that i played gets screwed up very very bad by the devs i cancel my sub and move on to more fun games, end of story.. and atleast i dont waste days posting in some forum about a game i hate

pre-CU/NGE fanboys are worse then DarkFall fans... ow yea flame on ... >_<

How sad. You're complaining about people who are complaining about a game. Get over it and move on.

I know it may seem clever to you to say the same thing back to someone who's just rinsed you (kinda like "you're an idiot" replied to by "you're an idiot"), but its not. Doesnt the fact that most people's reactions, who arent the digruntled vets, to this forums are "get over it", or something along those lines in amazement of the relentless hate campaign being held up by a few individuals, tell you something?

yeah saay needs to move on...

/cricket chirp

Originally posted by Hozloff

This one makes my blood boil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDSULK3MSu4&feature=related

"well apparently according to the message boards i'm supposed to shiv you now"

god why didn't he?

Originally posted by Thunderous

Originally posted by Reklaw

 

Originally posted by salvaje

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/preList.m?topic_id=635801&post_id=6937793

Repeat the same crap over and over and over and over for some vapid reward.

(that will get nerfed)

Hell, why not just bring back the lava flea repeat?

(which ended up being the only value that TOOW gave to the NGE, a way to get to Cl90)

I'd rather play EVE.  In which I can fly ships that I created myself.  And be a functional part of an empire occupying space of our own creation...

 

Sometimes i enjoy the content of your post, but many times the content you post stops making sence when you use childish words like "team toilet boy" when you use such words all strenght of your post go way down, while without those childish words most of your post DO say something. Maybe to engage a mature discussion it would be cool to see you act mature , which you do in most of your post ...except when using words that only fit childern sorry to say.

 

 

He may have some "immature" posts from time to time but most of us can't even decipher what you're trying to say most of the time.

agreed. at least salvaje speaks his mind. instead of reading a poorly xeroxed memo from soe......

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Fishermage

Once again saay, why do you do this? It can't be because you are about the "Truth." If Truth was all you cared about, there are plenty of places that you could fight for truth. Why spend so many hours DEFENDING a video game that screwed over a hundred thousand people?

At least the vets who are posting here feel they have been wronged, and thus have a general grievance -- a reason to do what they are doing? What reason have you in defending them time and again?

Why? fun, curiosity, a will to somehow get at least a few people to see that the ideas whipped up by certain disgruntled vets are usually complete bollocks, especially as they dont play it and know very little about it and because the sheer, undeserved, unfounded, stupifying hate i see concerns me somewhat - coming up to 3 years on. Thus truth is definately a part of it - SWG is a game i play when i can and i enjoy very much, past and present, so naturally im bound to be concerned with this issue rather than any other issues that may have better causes (how do you know im not concerned with them as well?) I defend a game because it deserves a defence (because a large amount of people are throwing hate at a game, i believe unfoundedly at this point, yet the hate propaganda perpetuates it. I feel i and the game is being wronged. That answer your question?

if our views were nonsense then the game would have tons of subs. you cannot ruin a game with fake bad press. any publicity is good publicity.

and honestly most of us would have moved on and forgotten this little stinky pc gaming footnote...except

we come here and see c