All Posts by Makestro

Originally posted by neorandom

the main thing to remember is that within a week of coming out wotlk is going to turn wow into the world of deathknights.  all deathknights all the time, who wants to grind their regular old characters theyve played to death when they can grind their brand new never played death knights?  can death knights fill all the group rolls of tanking healing dpsing ccing?  i kinda doubt it, glad i quit playing wow when bc came out and ruined my high warlord status and took all the fun out of the pvp with arenas.  have fun in world of deathknights though, ima be having fun sieging keeps and sacking the orders city in warhammer myself.

Death Knights are not even that good, as a shaman I rock them with my enhancement spec(what I actually have gear for) and my elemental spec(all green gear I have got from the quests in northrend mind you I am level 71).

Death Knights are just a bunch of tricks and any real players will be able to heal through their damage because it's not that amazing. Currently the best spec for killing someone is Frost because of burst damage.

I think a lot of people will start a Death Knight and get turned off by it as they get closer to 80 and keep getting owned because they're to busy spamming attacks.

Originally posted by xenogias

I'm no WoW fan but I tend to ignore people who try to pass off there opinions as facts. The OP in his first post stated what he was going to say is fact then went on to state nothing but his opinions on WOTLK. Odds are I would agree with him on most but come on, dont try to pass opinion as fact. Makes you look stupid.

As to the PvE in WOTLK being the same stuff just rehashed, dont even need to play it to know that. PvE wont make a lick of diffrence though. The majority of thoes in WoW thinking about WAR are PvP players. Some PvE'ers will come over, especcialy once word of PQ's and the ToK starts spreading more. WoW has a verry large PvP player base though waiting for good PvP. If WOTLK doesnt deliver for them they will head to WAR plain and simple.

The only reason I am not going to play WAR is it takes the worest parts of WoW's PvP(instanced Battlegrounds). Yes there are the RvR zones with objectives and all that shit, but I'm so sick of instancing and running battle ground I could puke. Instancing is and will always remain the stupidest thing you could ever add to a game that claims it's made for pure PvP. Now WAR doesn't claim to be a PvP game, it's RvR. I'm not a fan of RvR I find it boring because it's just a zerg fest and one side always ends up way more populated then the other and wins by sheer numbers and not skill. It's how RvR works, and it gets very boring very fast.

Just not my cup of tea, I'd rather wait for Darkfall or a certian underground SWG project to finish and play those. If mythic made a FFA server I'd possibly change my mind but the way they've designed the game it would be pretty much impossible.

But all of this don't matter, the OP is wrong about a lot of stuff with the WotLK beta. IN all honesty I think the people who have fun in BGs and arenas will enjoy WAR. Anyone who likes to gank, PvE, and solo/small group PvP will probably want to stick to WoW.

how is that before beta talents? That is stormstrike on live right now, there has been no patch 3.0 yet.

Jesus Christ who let this moron on the Internet?

Originally posted by syxx

Originally posted by buckstar0814

The cooldown on elementals for shamen has been 20 minutes for at least a year. You are flat out wrong which makes me question the rest of your post.

 

LoL so the rest of my post must be wrong just because you claim im wrong about 1 thing. go ahead and try to prove me wrong about something else then chief.

http://thottbot.com/ta901

shut up you're stupid

I can't believe I originally even replied to someone so stupid, this guy is trolling.

Originally posted by Roin

I'm still trying to figure out why it was posted in the War forums.  The post seems to mainly deal with is unhappiness for WOTLK.  With a little War talk sprinkled in for good measure.  80% WoW talks 20% War talk.  Shouldn't that go in WoW forum?

OP was probably just hoping everyone would jump on the WoW bashing train, when sadly he has a better chance on the actual WoW general forums here.

Originally posted by syxx

 

DK was poorly done lore wise i dont know where you come up with it being awesome.

, The slightest thought of it even being close to awesome is obsolete. Hero classes were suppose to come 2 years ago...its way too late to expect this kind of crap lore. And yes he is suppose to be the all powerful lich king...not some chump guy with a potbelly.

Your wrong about stormstrike, they upped the cooldown . It used to be 6-7 secs with s1 set bonus. Now SS cd is 7 secs with s1 gear and the talent. Elementals were much much lower months back...around 5-10 minutes. And i know for a FACT they were lower because i used one every BG even if they were quick.

 I need not give suggestions, blizzard's doors have been closed for a long long time now. These are facts bro im sorry you cant deal with it and as i even stated at the end of my post...if your going to let them keep dumping on you...stay in your handicapped section of MMO's.

Questing with friends etc is just obsolete playing casually, as long as it is to level now your just nerfing your exp if you actually want to level.

Maybe your right about the AQ war effort, in either case its old and if they start new servers with it everytime then man they got some problems. 

  I got a 70 mage, 70 priest, 70 shaman, 70 hunter, 70 warlock , 70 druid...With raid experience on every single class i have.  To say the least WOW is old and most of this crap should have came years ago. I feel the same way about diablo 3 too. If im mumbling ...then you sir yourself are doing the exact same thing.

 

So you're telling me, even though I have played enhancement the full length of the burning crusade, I am wrong? Stormstrike is a 10 second cooldown and always was. In beta it was 6 seconds, that got changed. You're wrong face it.

Elementals never where 5 to 10 minutes, they always where 20, go try to tell any shaman that you'll be laughed off the forums.

Questing in groups is fun, sorry you're a solo player.

The DK wasn't introduced the best I wont lie, but the questing from 55 to 58 wasn't boring and I was entertained the whole time, it's cool though you're already dead set on hating the expansion.

I don't care how many 70's you have you don't know shit about shaman even though you have one.

Originally posted by syxx

 

 Ive been playing Wotlk beta now since preview weekend ended and all i got to say is, As long term WoW players like myself will be disgusted, as i was. I'll be writing a more in depth review on Wotlk on the WoW forums when i get more time but for now here's some logic. 

     IF you got anything to say to flame me , or if you disagree then your better off writing Blizzard development because these are facts...not just opinions.

    1.) Stormwind harbor, yeah its cool but um should have been added years ago to cut travel times.

    2.) The new class dk plays well but i was truly disgusted to start right in front of the lich king...and hes suppose to be the baddest ass in the game to date...but even his character model looks like a grease drinking retard. There's even quests that make him look pretty weak.

    3.) For the most part, Northrend is the same thing as BC with grindfests, timesinks etc. It's just new scenery with for the most part boring boring gameplay.

    4.) They upped all cooldowns...this means your going to see talents to lower cooldowns...Why this is a problem?. Because enhance shamans have been crying to be fixed for years instead of constant nerfbats..So what does blizzard do?. They higher Stormstrike Cd and give you a talent that ends up making it 2 sec's lower....fire ele and earth ele are now on 20 min cd's.. Completely pointless development that makes you feel like your finally not being nerfed when in fact you really are. But dont get me wrong i have 5 70's..and feel the same way about every single one of those classes.

   5.) When i found out AQ war effort was back i rolled my eyes, Not only is this pointless but its absolutely retarded to the point of chest beating...Everyones gonna be 80 or trying to get to 80...AQ is of no meaning anymore. GG Blizz

   6.) It feels like a single player game when your not answering someone in general chat...Doesn' feel like anything is going on except for the quests your doing which are the same damn things over and over. It also takes about 2x the amount of time to actually level. Really really lame gameplay. Blizz development is doing nothing to make WoW more enjoyable or fun...

  7.) Sooooo many more logical things that should have been added years ago. I'll get to them when i have more time.

 

Now for the good part... What does this all have to do with WAR?. As you can see for yourself's from poor quality blizzard development that simply with WAR's features/feel and fun factor, It will make WAR a game worth spending some time on.    As for WoW, if your new to it and not tired of blizzard taking a dump on you every year then of course your going to go buy WOTLK. But if your a long term WOW player like myself and your going to continue to let blizz dump on you then you really belong in the handicapped section of MMO's.

I play a shaman in WOTLK and have been playing this same character since launch, it is my only max level character I have ever had at 60 and at 70. So why am I saying this? Because this guy is pretty much mumbling.

As for point #1 I am Horde so I do not know.

#2: I thought the DK starting zone was awesome, the quests where cool and it kept me entertained. A bit confusing but if you read the quests you'll have no issues. As for Arthas getting pwned at the end of the DK event, what was he suppose to take over Tyr's hand and win? It was made so all the frsh DKs had something cool to be a part of. I thought the DK quests where well done. DKs are a bit powerful right now but it's nothing other classes wont be able to counter, on my Shaman I have no problem as elemental and my ele gear is green

#3: Same can be said about the first expansion, no surprise to anyone here so complaining about it is retarded. Yes not everyone played WoW as long as I did but still, it's already out there.

#4: Umm, shaman's elementals where always on a 20 minute cooldown, stormstrike fully talented is 8 seconds(was 10 and still is 10). In fact Lay on Hands is now a 20 minute cooldown, the druid res is was lowered also to my knowledge, basically to a cooldown that prevents it from being used in arenas. So I'm pretty sure Bliizard is trying to eliminate long cooldowns, all the warrior skills also got an improved cooldown and the ability scalled down to match. OP doesn't know what he is talking about.

#5: AQ war effort is only up because the test center is a fresh server, any server that has finished it will have it still finished.

#6: Quest with friends, the quests do seem a bit more single playerish but they're normally sparking events and make them a bit more interesting, in all honesty Blizzard still has the same kill 10 of this 5 of that gather 12 of these, but what game doesn't? Quests that use vehicles are a bit fun.

#7: quit trolling and give suggestions instead of whining.

Look, Warhammer and Warcraft are 2 different games. Just because they have a lot of the same features they're 2 different approaches to the MMO world. WAR has tons of BGs, RvR areas, and about anything you want to do to level. I'm sure questing will be faster in the end though. Thing is WAR will come, people will dislike it and people will like it... RvR is a totally different gameplay style then Warcraft has, and Blizzard is trying to add more PvP content and will most likely fail, but it will still have it's PvE.

Both game will be good, I just am not a battleground guy, I hate them and only hit revered with AV for the unstoppable force at 60, so I don't think I'll enjoy Warhammer for more then a few months, and with that note I've been bored with Warcraft since I hit 70.

This topic made me lol, I don't think everyone gets it right away.

Originally posted by arcdevil

Originally posted by Tecknic

Why do we need classes at all?  I say throw 'em out, and give players a skill-based system.  Much more creativity to be had there.

 

that is so false its almost funny. classes at least guarantee a certain degree of difference between players (of different classes)

 

skill-based systems always derail into 2-3 OP templates that in 3 months, 90% of the server is using.

 

so you get 90% of the people using sort of "one class" ,and 0.0 creativity.

at least having 20 different classes,people are forced to find builds for each of them,and calculate the pairings,strong points,weak points...

 

And that is so false it is funny. At least with a skill system unless the developers are retarded, will have tons of super awesome benefits for reaching top teir skills and wont leave you with enough points to get all the skills that could possibly kick ass.

Yes in PvE and solo you'll see the same 4 temps, gankers and greifer probably the same 2 or 3, but when it comes to group content and group pvp you'll see a mix and match of so many skills just so people can specialize on doing certian stuffs so they can over come their encounter.

class systems are so over used and unbalanced it's become redundant. Classes get nerfed people cry, devs hand out kleenex. "oo this hybrid can dps, heal, and CC?!", "wtf this dps class kills so fast over powered!", " omg nerf the heals of this guy, I'm a healer too and it is not fair he always out heals me!"

So what we make 3 classes? Healer, warrior, mage... for complete class balance that is how it would have to be... ooo maybe a rogue/stealther.... but leave out hybrids, hybrids are ment for a skill system.

I wont play another MMO until Darkfall or something on that level comes out. I wont support instancing at all(in before darkfall has instances, the fact is it's 1 instance everyone on the server goes into, not one for you and your butt buddies).

This market is seriously being destroyed. Anyone who played an MMO designed before WoW could see how much the devs went to make stuff complex and unique, now every game is a faction vs. faction team based game with raiding, sub-par pvp, with no risk besides a repair bill.

Originally posted by roguetech

Originally posted by Vansinne

Brannoc said at IRC that it will most likely be this friday. He guessed the video would be 3-15 min long. He saw the uncut 15min version and told us it would blow our asses

So Brannoc believes a three minute video could be a comprehensive view of the game....

We’re looking at releasing a comprehensive video sometime in the next few weeks.

You could see a lot in 3 minutes, more then you could see if they didn't release a video at all.

As for comprehensive, yeah I'm with you there, it'll need to be at least 6+ for that, unless they show us stuff so fast we have to watch the video 100 times just to fully understand it, what would suck ass.

This is one of those things where there is a grayline and that line is measured by each mod.

Saying: "damn I was in *insert game title* beta and the graphics for the bushes where dull." that is what I have to say the weakest NDA breach ever. This didn't leak anything, no 'AVOID' in it, just stating something.

now...

"OMG AVOID AVOID TERRIBLE GAME" on the forum is fucking dumb, AoC spawned so many anti-AoC trolls it sad. Yes the game evetually flopped but it was fun for the free month before the pvp servers got more carebear amd the lack of end-game content(never hit 80 had to much fun ganking while grinding).

NDA breachs are aginst the law, you sign a contract. If you come here to smear a game before NDAs are lifted that is your own fault and what the mods decide to do when they browse your post is up to them.

Originally posted by AOCjester

whats dummy news network, nver herd of it.

link or i call bs

Either this guy is trolling hard or he totally missed the point.

SOE has left a sour taste in about every American and European MMO gamer's mouth. So now they're being forced to develop for the ps3.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Just like EQ1, or Lineage, or WoW. Right? I have not played a MMO that is perfect from launch, or even near there, and I have been around for many game launches since EQ1. Remember Shadows of Luclin launch? Hell remember all you kiddies favorite pacifier, World of Warcraft, on launch? It was terrible. AoC has the principle correct, the combat correct, and the story line correct. People want a fresh breath of air in MMOs, AoC delivered. We'll see how the rest of the game is, so please, stop posting your "reviews" on this beta testing phase.

Most of the people posting here about how much the game sucks are pissed because people are leaving other games to try AoC out or are hardcore Warhammer fan boys/girls.

I am not saying AoC is going to be perfect and is even going to be good, I have pre-ordered and I will give it a shot and play a character to the max level

All the bugs you encounter will most likely be fixed when the devs push their final huge patch.

Most dev teams fix a shit load of things and right before the end of beta they patch that takes care of a lot of issues that have been reported.

I am really looking forward to this game.

It does set off an alarm when they wont let anyone but journalists talk about level 13+, but it also weeds out retarded assholes who played to level 20 and got bored because, AoC is not like WoW.

I played the PvP beta weekend, I did the first part of the destiny quest, or the whole thing not sure, I had fun, I played the BGs and stuff at 20, it was fun. I only wish that I got to read about the feats and learn the game mechanics a bit more before my time was over.

Stopping the press because people are going to spew garbage and try to sabotage launch(and people do, I don't know why people share their opinions on a game they don't even want to play) is not bad.

AoC probably won have 1mil subs,... it will however, have a decent player base, and will be fun. It has raiding, pvp, player cities, and other shit that.... you as a level 80 player will take part in.

in SWG I know people who only played for player cities and to RP and communicate with other players... AoC will have those and probably, will have a better RP then WoW(I don't RP I think it is boring)

I'm pre-ordering tomorrow, upgrading to 2 gigs of ram, hoping my processor(AMD3500+) is good enough, and just looking forward to leveling to 80, testing game mechanics, and finding what class I want to play. I just wish I knew more about the healing classes and had some footage of healing in pve and pvp.

That is all you're doing every time you moan about the current build of SWG.

The game will never be back to pre-cu or cu, except for the..... you know.

So seriously, SOE supported SWG servers? Do you honestly want that? Do you? When in the future we wont have to worry about SOE at all?

Come on guys, give it a rest, it's not worth sitting here dreaming about SOE magically opening a few classic servers for a group of whiners, most of us don't even give a fuck about SOE anymore and would rather avoid playing any game under their companies command.

Get a grip, wait it out, and the game you once love just may be able to be played, without SOE's bs.