All Posts by Makestro

Originally posted by dinanm3atl

Originally posted by SupderD

So, in darkfall, when you die, the killer (or is it ANYONE?) can loot you.

But, what happens when I respawn?  I mean.. we'll all be new players to start, and I won't have an extra sword or reagents or an axe or a staff in the bank.. so.. am I just.. well dead?  Should I delete and restart?do I get more stuff to start?

 

I would say MOST people would do like they did in Ultima Online. Create a mule/crafter first and that is the backbone of your account in the beginning. Making money to supply other characters that cannot fund themselves in the beginning(IE Tank Mages or pure mages etc etc etc). Many dungeons in UO were mostly empty in the very beginning or were full of newbs that were dead.

 

Then create your main character and you have funding.

 

That is what I will do.

1 Character per server per account. You would need 2 accounts to do that.

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by gatheris

Originally posted by Makestro

Originally posted by TenSpotting

What I wanna know is --- why is there even a NEED for an NDA at this point?

I mean based on Tasos -- the game is feature complete, Beta ready, and ready to release before Dec 31.

So what gives?

I smell bullshit in Agon.

 

NDAs are there for a reason you know. Just because you would leak info doesn't mean everyone would.

 

i've been in quite a few BETAs and not one of their NDAs prevented you from mentioning that you were in beta - nothing else though of course - maybe gave you bragging rights?

 

Ive never heard of a beta with that type of NDA either. This seems to be a recent thing thats just popped up on the Darkfall boards as a way to perhaps soothe the burn.

Wow, how many betas have you guys been in? I've been in 4 major betas, and all of them have been kept under NDA until open beta. Vanguard, LotRO, and Dark Age of Camelot.

 

Ive been in 5, and none of them have stipulated that you cannot admit you are in the beta, or show anyone your email invite.

it all depends on the game, the publisher, and the stage of beta.

Like I said, they're most likely still in the tech part of beta, fixing hardware errors and core issues, I'm sure a few people have spilled their guts on private forums in hidden sections. We also have no idea what features are turned on/off right now also. For all we know only one is online at a time for a few hours, then another is turned on, then one is turned off and 2 more ect. I don't think open beta will be over before December or even have started.

I have a feeling late November or early December will be when they test a lot of the skill/spell mechanics and that will be when info is leaked. There is most likely I'd say between 100-150 people who have gotten that email, all who most likely live in greece or close to +1 gmt(think that is what greece is). Also the fact I'm sure the devs handed out a few promised beta keys to people that also filled in those slots. They don't need a lot of people to test the shit that Tasos was talking about. As time passes, people will be let in based on their hardware until they're satisified. Then skills/spells/all the fun stuff will need tons of data collected on, that's when a lot of us will get our invites and tbh, we'll have missed all the boring stuff and get to play the fun part.

I think it is still possible to pull off '08 with a digital release for US players. It is going to be very close though imo.

(above is pure speculation)

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Makestro

Originally posted by Arcken

I agree Makestro. But Aventurines lack of communication with its community is nothing short of scary. I cant think of a game that has done as badly in that regard.

 

And I agree, they haven't told us anything about darkfall, hell we've been asking for a bone for months now, we'll never get it though.

 

I think they've feared to tell us anything because they don't want to make any promises, although at this stage that excuse is pretty much null. It's all speculation, I just think if they where going to screw us over and try to take our money with a shitty product like funcom did, they'd of already done it.

 

Again I agree with you on some level. Though I do have to point out that Tasos is the master of the inference. I cant count the times hes infered things, but left what hes said open to just enough interpretation for it to go either way. I think it was done that way purposely. Carrot on a stick anyone?

Tasos strings us along that is for sure, but it is his job. I can't imagine how hard it is for someone to hype a game without talking about anything in great detail. What made me thinks.

Maybe the reason NDA is so harsh and info is so rare is the fact there is no american publisher yet? I don't know the legal shit behind it, but it might have something to do with it.

Excuses I know, I wish we knew more also, I'm excited for this game obviously.

Originally posted by Arcken

I agree Makestro. But Aventurines lack of communication with its community is nothing short of scary. I cant think of a game that has done as badly in that regard.

And I agree, they haven't told us anything about darkfall, hell we've been asking for a bone for months now, we'll never get it though.

I think they've feared to tell us anything because they don't want to make any promises, although at this stage that excuse is pretty much null. It's all speculation, I just think if they where going to screw us over and try to take our money with a shitty product like funcom did, they'd of already done it.

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Makestro

Originally posted by TenSpotting

What I wanna know is --- why is there even a NEED for an NDA at this point?

I mean based on Tasos -- the game is feature complete, Beta ready, and ready to release before Dec 31.

So what gives?

I smell bullshit in Agon.

 

NDAs are there for a reason you know. Just because you would leak info doesn't mean everyone would.

 

We have witnessed a miracle then, the first MMO ever in existance to not have a single beta leak. Hallelujah!

You say that like when they said back in september they invited people and the recent nov 10th invites have added a total of 1000+ testers...

Get a grip on reality, I would be surprised if they've let in over 150 people, let alone 100. This isn't open beta, they're still testing and fixing things lol.

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Makestro

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Makestro

Originally posted by Polarization

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Polarization

I think I can clear this up for you chaps, the incredible progress the poster is referring to is the hundreds of screenshots, the videos and the developer updates, interviews and Q&A’s they have produced so far.

 

Not a real heavy workload for 8 years is it?

 

Tasos seems to of found it quite demanding.

 

Maybe because he was busy actually working on the game... I know, i know, your minds can't grasp the concept people go to work and actually do their fucking jobs the whole day they slave away at it. putting in mostl ikely 12 hour days  nearly every day of the week.... Sometimes to go aside and do stuff does in fact take time.

 

When you're under the eye of so many people who are just finding something to tear you apart, you take your time when you write a post. Tasos said they have started to invite people to beta, who knows maybe it was more buggy then originally intended. If so they're obviously fixing the game up for us... if it takes until jan, feb, march, whatever for the game to not suck complete ass... then I don't care.

 

Yes we're in the dark, where we ever in the light though? nope.

 

Perhaps hed better work harder, he slated an '08 release. Id hate to think he lied to us.

 

Well if you've been around for more then a few months you'd know we got shafted last year, so what, they announced they've invited more people... they never did that before.

 

And it wouldn't be the first company to push the launch date back a few times.

 

I think we passed the "few" pushbacks some years back

A lot of games have a lot of push backs, better pushed back then released total trash.

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Makestro

Originally posted by Polarization

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Polarization

I think I can clear this up for you chaps, the incredible progress the poster is referring to is the hundreds of screenshots, the videos and the developer updates, interviews and Q&A’s they have produced so far.

 

Not a real heavy workload for 8 years is it?

 

Tasos seems to of found it quite demanding.

 

Maybe because he was busy actually working on the game... I know, i know, your minds can't grasp the concept people go to work and actually do their fucking jobs the whole day they slave away at it. putting in mostl ikely 12 hour days  nearly every day of the week.... Sometimes to go aside and do stuff does in fact take time.

 

When you're under the eye of so many people who are just finding something to tear you apart, you take your time when you write a post. Tasos said they have started to invite people to beta, who knows maybe it was more buggy then originally intended. If so they're obviously fixing the game up for us... if it takes until jan, feb, march, whatever for the game to not suck complete ass... then I don't care.

 

Yes we're in the dark, where we ever in the light though? nope.

 

Perhaps hed better work harder, he slated an '08 release. Id hate to think he lied to us.

Well if you've been around for more then a few months you'd know we got shafted last year, so what, they announced they've invited more people... they never did that before.

And it wouldn't be the first company to push the launch date back a few times.

Originally posted by Polarization

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Polarization

I think I can clear this up for you chaps, the incredible progress the poster is referring to is the hundreds of screenshots, the videos and the developer updates, interviews and Q&A’s they have produced so far.

 

Not a real heavy workload for 8 years is it?

 

Tasos seems to of found it quite demanding.

Maybe because he was busy actually working on the game... I know, i know, your minds can't grasp the concept people go to work and actually do their fucking jobs the whole day they slave away at it. putting in mostl ikely 12 hour days  nearly every day of the week.... Sometimes to go aside and do stuff does in fact take time.

When you're under the eye of so many people who are just finding something to tear you apart, you take your time when you write a post. Tasos said they have started to invite people to beta, who knows maybe it was more buggy then originally intended. If so they're obviously fixing the game up for us... if it takes until jan, feb, march, whatever for the game to not suck complete ass... then I don't care.

Yes we're in the dark, where we ever in the light though? nope.

if invited in the phase where QA is working along side the current testers I'd do it, but honestly I want to get a taste for the game and demo it before I buy it after all these years.

Originally posted by TenSpotting

What I wanna know is --- why is there even a NEED for an NDA at this point?

I mean based on Tasos -- the game is feature complete, Beta ready, and ready to release before Dec 31.

So what gives?

I smell bullshit in Agon.

NDAs are there for a reason you know. Just because you would leak info doesn't mean everyone would.

we'll see in 2 weeks

its sucks because it does sit in the back of our minds that there might not even be a beta like last year.

I think the reason info isn't being leaked is people are having to much fun to risk losing their account. I'm sure the people who know people are keeping quiet because they don't want their inside informer.

I expect it to remain direct download like EVE for awhile.

Originally posted by Lokr

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Lokr

1 month is 30-31 days

 

Yes sorry I saw 12th, you are using US date format.

You got a 3 week ban then,  I doubt the admins know when the beta will end.

 

i didn't get banned by just an admin but by the upper admin, it's obvious he knows a lot more about darkfall

neways, i got banned because my sig was linked to a rickroll (even though i put a rickrollwarning beneath it) the sig was actually a memorial to the time i rickrolled half of the forums when they wanted updates about the athens digital week, i got banned 3 days for that, but a lot of ppl complimented me on the brilliance :D.

Some people are so stupid they never learn....

when I watch darkfall gameplay footage I am forced to break at least one neck every 2 minutes or else I'll go into overload and passout.

that reminds me... i need to find more friends and show them darkfall videos.

Originally posted by onlinenow225

Originally posted by EvilGargamel

Originally posted by GrayGhost79 

After 11 years playing MMO's it is in my experience that if a sandbox MMO does a decent job it generaly gets 200-300k subs at it's peak.

so let me get this straight -- you're basically saying that you believe that this game will have the same number of active subscribers that Star Wars Galaxies had when it first came out?

You're living in a dream world. You are a very naive, ignorant person if you honestly believe that this game is going to have anywhere remotely close to 200-300k subscribers. 

I would be shocked if it was able to keep 30,000 subs for a full year. In fact, the 30,000 subs number would even shock me.

It's not as easy as you think to get people to pay to play.

This game has no marketing. This product is vague and obscure. It has no face other than in Greece and among the few thousand hardcore followers.

And then throw into the mix the largest, most feature rich, most costly expansion ever created for a MMO coming out in days ---- Lich King

This game is doomed to either bankruptcy or a tiny subscriber base. The latter being the probable outcome.

 

Sorry there is nothing new in that expansion.  Its all been done before in other games or in its current form. WoW WotLK is the same game as WoW is now.  Nothing will change.  The grind will be huge untill 4 months before their next expansion and then the scrubby noob that leveld to 80 and quit right after can get that Teir Over 9000 gear faster than you did.

Yeah but to your average WoW player WOTLK is huge, it brings lore + new content.

I don't get why people hate Blizzard so much, yeah WoW is a total carebear PvE game with PvP thrown into the mix that any idiot can play... but blizzard works their asses off to make sure the game stays exploit free, they ban hackers and punish cheaters, they try to deal with gold farming(hard), and still adds in new shit... If Blizzard made their next MMO have FFA pvp with looting you know you'd be excited, because you know the game would most likely kick some ass and be huge because blizzard-activision is stamped on it.

all that said, i think wow is boring and i don't play it, i just don't like to see people bash a good game just because it's not their play style.

that is why we have darkfall, so we can own it up

people who are worried about what the nay sayers are spewing are wasting their own time. We know there is a market, we know people are willing to try it and learn the game style, it's fact. Just nothing these days is modern enough to get people attention.

I never played UO before trammel or whatever, i played it on a free shard though and it took time to learn, I lost a lot of reagents and items but I learned and improved. I eventually got good enough to pvp with my 2 buddies who are good at the game and we kicked some ass, it's fun but I've been told what I play isn't a fractiuon of what the game was.

I am so excited to finally play Darkfall though it's unreal, I've been watching this game since pre-cu SWG, it's been so many years, so like i said... fuck the nay sayers, we're finally getting our game :P

I'll probably learn what I can about the game while killing stuff and skilling up.

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

I mean...WAR was supposed to be where all the hardcore PvPers were gonna go

I stopped reading right here and anything the OP said after this point is worthless.

Originally posted by TenSpotting

LOL they plan on "starting" to let in "a few people" on Nov 10'th.

And they don't even have all their features turned on or active to test yet.

And they actually think they can launch commercially this year with 1 month of testing?

Beyond hilarious.

One good thing is that it SEEMS as though there may actually be REAL people logging in very soon. And that's exactly when you can expect to find out if it's a POS or not.. because NDA's mean nothing and info WILL leak and leak fast.

But I gurantee you without a shadow of a doubt this thing will NEVER launch this year. If it does then it will be a bug ridden POS.

 

How many games go into beta with all the features turned on?

In a month all this wont matter, we'll all be playing the game.