All Posts by Makestro

Hate to burst everyone's bubbles, this community as a whole(mmorpg) is full of bad apples on every one of it's forums.

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by spartanp1

Originally posted by Makestro

Yeah UO has PvE too, but also a lot of PvP.

 

Look every game needs PvE content, Darkfall is open ended, the "blues" in Darkfall will be forced to PvP while PvEing at time, they'll have to learn the game and become good players.

 

Have you ever dueled someone who was a hardcore raider in WoW and never pvp'd? They're terrible at the game and it even shows in raiding most the time also, they just pick easy mode classes that they can stand click click click click...

 

Just cause the game has PvE, and reasons to PvE, does not make it a PvE game.... it's a MMO, it'll have players of all background types like an real MMO should have.

 

Look at planetside, one of my favorite MMOs of all time. It had NO PvE content... when you think about it, PvE is pretty lame. Id much rather play a game that challenges me in other ways than challenging me in my Video Game endurance of Raiding a 6-8 hour instance

 

Raiding instances is NOT what PvE is. From the descriptions Darkfall will have a great PvE system, especially with mob AI being what it is, and having them actually migrate if overhunted, or set up strongholds and start training armies and raiding nearby cities. I like killing large monsters and bosses, and doing quests (QUESTS, NOT KILL TASKS) to move the story along and find out about the world.

I also like sacking someones city. There is something for us all.

 

Also, PvE in general is NOT skillless. WoW PvE might be, but other games have damn challenging content. Be it quests, or the monsters themselves.

The PvE in Darkfall probably wont be the best to ever hit the market, but with the combo of players interfering with you as you do it will make it some of the most challanging at times.

Originally posted by spartanp1

Originally posted by Makestro

Originally posted by spartanp1

Originally posted by Makestro

Yeah UO has PvE too, but also a lot of PvP.

 

Look every game needs PvE content, Darkfall is open ended, the "blues" in Darkfall will be forced to PvP while PvEing at time, they'll have to learn the game and become good players.

 

Have you ever dueled someone who was a hardcore raider in WoW and never pvp'd? They're terrible at the game and it even shows in raiding most the time also, they just pick easy mode classes that they can stand click click click click...

 

Just cause the game has PvE, and reasons to PvE, does not make it a PvE game.... it's a MMO, it'll have players of all background types like an real MMO should have.

 

Look at planetside, one of my favorite MMOs of all time. It had NO PvE content... when you think about it, PvE is pretty lame. Id much rather play a game that challenges me in other ways than challenging me in my Video Game endurance of Raiding a 6-8 hour instance

 

You don't get it, Darkfall will not have raid dungeons like WoW, the game is open, you enter an instance that has some big bad ogre warlord and the reds will be able to walk through the door into the same place and gank you. The PvE in Darkfall will be open world, so if you down some giant dragon it'll take maybe 30 to 45 minutes after fighting off the gankers and engaging the target.

 

UO, SWG< and the FFA EQ server are all games you can look at to figure out what DFO will be like. It wont be your typical go into an instance and spend all day to kill 10 bosses, someone will have wiped you by that point.

 

Pure PvP isn't fun for everyone, and gets boring without something else to do besides it. I'm a PvPer and will be a red in DFO, without PvE content I'll have less people to kill.

 

No you dont get it... My whole argument was against games like WoW that do that.............. im a PvP player, and PvE is a skill-less style game. SPank and tank, thats how most of it is. Its just a time grind, boring....

I agree man, darkfall wont be that kind of game. The guys making it are targetting another play style. If you like PvP Darkfall most likely will be the game to play until others step out of the WoW shadow.

trolling lol...

Originally posted by spartanp1

Originally posted by Makestro

Yeah UO has PvE too, but also a lot of PvP.

 

Look every game needs PvE content, Darkfall is open ended, the "blues" in Darkfall will be forced to PvP while PvEing at time, they'll have to learn the game and become good players.

 

Have you ever dueled someone who was a hardcore raider in WoW and never pvp'd? They're terrible at the game and it even shows in raiding most the time also, they just pick easy mode classes that they can stand click click click click...

 

Just cause the game has PvE, and reasons to PvE, does not make it a PvE game.... it's a MMO, it'll have players of all background types like an real MMO should have.

 

Look at planetside, one of my favorite MMOs of all time. It had NO PvE content... when you think about it, PvE is pretty lame. Id much rather play a game that challenges me in other ways than challenging me in my Video Game endurance of Raiding a 6-8 hour instance

You don't get it, Darkfall will not have raid dungeons like WoW, the game is open, you enter an instance that has some big bad ogre warlord and the reds will be able to walk through the door into the same place and gank you. The PvE in Darkfall will be open world, so if you down some giant dragon it'll take maybe 30 to 45 minutes after fighting off the gankers and engaging the target.

UO, SWG< and the FFA EQ server are all games you can look at to figure out what DFO will be like. It wont be your typical go into an instance and spend all day to kill 10 bosses, someone will have wiped you by that point.

Pure PvP isn't fun for everyone, and gets boring without something else to do besides it. I'm a PvPer and will be a red in DFO, without PvE content I'll have less people to kill.

Yeah UO has PvE too, but also a lot of PvP.

Look every game needs PvE content, Darkfall is open ended, the "blues" in Darkfall will be forced to PvP while PvEing at time, they'll have to learn the game and become good players.

Have you ever dueled someone who was a hardcore raider in WoW and never pvp'd? They're terrible at the game and it even shows in raiding most the time also, they just pick easy mode classes that they can stand click click click click...

Just cause the game has PvE, and reasons to PvE, does not make it a PvE game.... it's a MMO, it'll have players of all background types like any real MMO should have.

Originally posted by OldAgeJunkie

Originally posted by erandur

Originally posted by nethrill

aoc=failed to live up to the hype

war=failed to live up to the hype

darkfall=the last beacon of light

AoC had a crappy launch, if Funcom wants they can still make in great.

And WAR failed you, it didn't fail in general, a lot of people are enjoying it.

 

AoC lead also left and resigned. Cough* Gaute.

Probably better for AoC, now they can bring the game in the right direction.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Makestro

I still can't believe thay actually pushed the CU/RB after all of us testing it said not to because the old game was better.

 

I still can't believe they pushed the NGE after announcing it two days after an expansion released and only testing it for two weeks while the forums exploded with people screaming not to. I think the CU was small potatoes in comparison.

I don't know about the NGE because I had long quit before that ever happened. I heard it did beat the CU as far as the bullshit meter goes, and from the way it sounds it was most likely the worest mistake in mmo history.

I still can't believe thay actually pushed the CU/RB after all of us testing it said not to because the old game was better.

Originally posted by zaxtor99

LMFAO. Great news!

I hope that real people get to play this game in October.

I cannot wait to see the reviews of Darkfall after its thrown out in the massive pile of crap that it will no doubt be.

Then we can finally compare the reviews and the games "Age of Conan" vs "Darkfall" since all these Darkfall fans have been so persistent in trashing Age of Conan and even calling it a "hoax" here.

Can't wait to see all of the promised features of Darkfall functional and running as Tasos has told us. LMAO.

Oh boy this is gonna be good. This game is gonna make Dark and Light and Mourning look great in contrast.

It is good to see that Adventurine has finally given up on this game now though and that all the fans will finally get their bubbles busted and realize that their dreams have been ohhh so unrealistic.

I honestly can't wait for this.

The shit is truly gonna hit the fan. And it will be fun to watch this time around.

- Zaxx

I never really thought we'd see the day when some tool named "Tasos Flambouras" became a religious icon and symbol of so much blind faith. If only people believed in things like "love" and "peace" as much as they do this guy, man.. would we have a better, safer world.

How are our dreams unrealistic? UO to this date still probalby had the most freedom of any game and it was one of the firsts. Not our fault everyone has fallen into the WoW era and forgot what real MMOs where made of.

I liked warhammer a bit, it was fun to play with my friends and they have talked me into playing it. The game has so many flaws though mostly because it has way to much instant gratification. Grinding is simple, gear is easy to get, and the game is just really easy to play. Anyone who can keep in mind more then 30 spells and hotkeys plus use them at the right time will have this game down to a T. It's nothing new, it's the same things we've seen since everquest hit the market.

I wish my friends didn't like this, because giving mythic 50 bucks plus a monthly fee when they didn't earn it makes me feel like an asshole to the mmo market.

Originally posted by tvalentine

the mmorpg genre is not declining

Makestro, you need to go back to thepvpserver, this isnt a good place for you to be.
 

And why don't find out how many more video game characters are like you. Who cares where I post outside of these forums.

I've played WotLK beta and Warhammer, they're both terrible. This isn't a warhammer vs wow topic, and this isn't a warhammer is garbage topic(even though it is). This is about the simple fact that developers aren't even trying to do anything creative, they're just throwing out the same product over and over and over. Sure a lot of good games came out of building on top of other ideas(like SWG to UO), but at the same time these games where totally different and still has a large variety of play styles in them, not just focus on one and half-ass the others.

Look at AoC, was suppose to be the game for FFA PvPers, and to avoid conflict they set up special servers and even a server to mock RvR a bit. Now the game is nothing but a battle ground game that went down hill so fast from terrible development choices and huge class swings. The only problem is this game was actually unique but it was destined to fail because funcom isn't the best development company on the planet, and this game was way more anticipated then Warhammer is.

The fact remains, nothing new is coming on the market except Darkfall, what is considered vaporware by anyone who has been following it for the past 6 years, and that's just a shadow until it's confirmed people are playing the beta.

I guess I'm stupid because I look at the market and see one game that currently is worth playing and that would be EVE Online. Lets not even get into how old that game is.

Why? You look at First Person Shooters, RTS, Adventure Games, hell any game genre out there... and you see them becoming more and more technical and allowing people to explore and interact with their game worlds more and more.

I've really begun to get a distaste in my mouth for MMORPGS lately. Everything that is coming out is a carbon copy of another game with no real additions, just catering to a whole group of players instead of trying to cater to them all at the same time, and on top of that they're doing a terrible job at that. We're stuck in a rut it seems, where companies are only developing games to try and take them away from other games what doesn't work normally.

It's like a resturant that servers a large variety of dishes but everyone loves the burgers. So a store opens up across the street that only makes burgers, the catch is it's the exact same burger for the exact same price with the exact same service. Why would you go buy a burger there when you could go to a place with more variety, spend the same amount of money, and get the same service? Have developers become retarded and that greedy? Lets copy everyone else and hope they come over, and if it flops we're crapping all over the few people who dedicated themselves to this game.

I can't even get excited over a game, I tried warhammer and knew exactly how it would play just looking at the website. It's just WoW battlegrounds extended with leveling that a little kid could enjoy because it's so easy, I bet this game will lose a lot of players after 3 months of the same boring crap over and over. Every BG I seen is the same just a different setting. RvR is the same as BGs just in the open world.

I could sit here and go on and on about plenty of games but I'd bore the hell out of everyone because everyone already knows what I'll say, because they're probably thinking it to.

It's just sad to see this market that at one time had so much potential going downhill so fast, no one is going to trust a developer anymore and games that could have been good will be shut down due to lack of interest because no one trusts the developers anymore because we've been spoon feed bullshit over the past 5 years.

/end rant

Originally posted by neorandom

the main thing to remember is that within a week of coming out wotlk is going to turn wow into the world of deathknights.  all deathknights all the time, who wants to grind their regular old characters theyve played to death when they can grind their brand new never played death knights?  can death knights fill all the group rolls of tanking healing dpsing ccing?  i kinda doubt it, glad i quit playing wow when bc came out and ruined my high warlord status and took all the fun out of the pvp with arenas.  have fun in world of deathknights though, ima be having fun sieging keeps and sacking the orders city in warhammer myself.

Death Knights are not even that good, as a shaman I rock them with my enhancement spec(what I actually have gear for) and my elemental spec(all green gear I have got from the quests in northrend mind you I am level 71).

Death Knights are just a bunch of tricks and any real players will be able to heal through their damage because it's not that amazing. Currently the best spec for killing someone is Frost because of burst damage.

I think a lot of people will start a Death Knight and get turned off by it as they get closer to 80 and keep getting owned because they're to busy spamming attacks.

Originally posted by xenogias

I'm no WoW fan but I tend to ignore people who try to pass off there opinions as facts. The OP in his first post stated what he was going to say is fact then went on to state nothing but his opinions on WOTLK. Odds are I would agree with him on most but come on, dont try to pass opinion as fact. Makes you look stupid.

As to the PvE in WOTLK being the same stuff just rehashed, dont even need to play it to know that. PvE wont make a lick of diffrence though. The majority of thoes in WoW thinking about WAR are PvP players. Some PvE'ers will come over, especcialy once word of PQ's and the ToK starts spreading more. WoW has a verry large PvP player base though waiting for good PvP. If WOTLK doesnt deliver for them they will head to WAR plain and simple.

The only reason I am not going to play WAR is it takes the worest parts of WoW's PvP(instanced Battlegrounds). Yes there are the RvR zones with objectives and all that shit, but I'm so sick of instancing and running battle ground I could puke. Instancing is and will always remain the stupidest thing you could ever add to a game that claims it's made for pure PvP. Now WAR doesn't claim to be a PvP game, it's RvR. I'm not a fan of RvR I find it boring because it's just a zerg fest and one side always ends up way more populated then the other and wins by sheer numbers and not skill. It's how RvR works, and it gets very boring very fast.

Just not my cup of tea, I'd rather wait for Darkfall or a certian underground SWG project to finish and play those. If mythic made a FFA server I'd possibly change my mind but the way they've designed the game it would be pretty much impossible.

But all of this don't matter, the OP is wrong about a lot of stuff with the WotLK beta. IN all honesty I think the people who have fun in BGs and arenas will enjoy WAR. Anyone who likes to gank, PvE, and solo/small group PvP will probably want to stick to WoW.

how is that before beta talents? That is stormstrike on live right now, there has been no patch 3.0 yet.

Jesus Christ who let this moron on the Internet?

Originally posted by syxx

Originally posted by buckstar0814

The cooldown on elementals for shamen has been 20 minutes for at least a year. You are flat out wrong which makes me question the rest of your post.

 

LoL so the rest of my post must be wrong just because you claim im wrong about 1 thing. go ahead and try to prove me wrong about something else then chief.

http://thottbot.com/ta901

shut up you're stupid

I can't believe I originally even replied to someone so stupid, this guy is trolling.

Originally posted by Roin

I'm still trying to figure out why it was posted in the War forums.  The post seems to mainly deal with is unhappiness for WOTLK.  With a little War talk sprinkled in for good measure.  80% WoW talks 20% War talk.  Shouldn't that go in WoW forum?

OP was probably just hoping everyone would jump on the WoW bashing train, when sadly he has a better chance on the actual WoW general forums here.

Originally posted by syxx

 

DK was poorly done lore wise i dont know where you come up with it being awesome.

, The slightest thought of it even being close to awesome is obsolete. Hero classes were suppose to come 2 years ago...its way too late to expect this kind of crap lore. And yes he is suppose to be the all powerful lich king...not some chump guy with a potbelly.

Your wrong about stormstrike, they upped the cooldown . It used to be 6-7 secs with s1 set bonus. Now SS cd is 7 secs with s1 gear and the talent. Elementals were much much lower months back...around 5-10 minutes. And i know for a FACT they were lower because i used one every BG even if they were quick.

 I need not give suggestions, blizzard's doors have been closed for a long long time now. These are facts bro im sorry you cant deal with it and as i even stated at the end of my post...if your going to let them keep dumping on you...stay in your handicapped section of MMO's.

Questing with friends etc is just obsolete playing casually, as long as it is to level now your just nerfing your exp if you actually want to level.

Maybe your right about the AQ war effort, in either case its old and if they start new servers with it everytime then man they got some problems. 

  I got a 70 mage, 70 priest, 70 shaman, 70 hunter, 70 warlock , 70 druid...With raid experience on every single class i have.  To say the least WOW is old and most of this crap should have came years ago. I feel the same way about diablo 3 too. If im mumbling ...then you sir yourself are doing the exact same thing.

 

So you're telling me, even though I have played enhancement the full length of the burning crusade, I am wrong? Stormstrike is a 10 second cooldown and always was. In beta it was 6 seconds, that got changed. You're wrong face it.

Elementals never where 5 to 10 minutes, they always where 20, go try to tell any shaman that you'll be laughed off the forums.

Questing in groups is fun, sorry you're a solo player.

The DK wasn't introduced the best I wont lie, but the questing from 55 to 58 wasn't boring and I was entertained the whole time, it's cool though you're already dead set on hating the expansion.

I don't care how many 70's you have you don't know shit about shaman even though you have one.