All Posts by metalhead980

A NYC pizza pie costs near 20 bucks, a MMO sub is 14.99 a month.

My children are allowed one pizza night every other week so I spend about 40 bucks (two pies) twice a month.

Thats 80 bucks a month for a god damn pizza and you're complaining about a 14 dollar mmo fee?

And to make things worse you put mmos up against Valve? a company that doesnt  host any games?

seriously, did you think before you typed that out?

Imo there are alot more players that enjoy Pve gameplay than Pvp.

Raids, questing, crafting/gathering people love this shit way more than Instanced pvp and world pvp.

Think players play a game like WoW for pvp?!? LOL! no way. the majority of wows playerbase is on a pve server. they love raiding ..... the majority of them anyway.

Imagine if wow had nothing but faction pvp, battlegrounds and world pvp objectives. the game would have about 2-3 million players world wide at the most.

Which is sad imo, the games I enjoy are ones that actually revolve around pvp, the pve in my games exist to let players farm cash or craft to pay for pvpers lost gear.

Originally posted by Milky

I'd consider VG to be in that graveyard.  Its a shame too.  I should have been a flagship AAA title.  The concepts were great.  Sadly the poor management's execution was lacking big time.

AoC is on its way.

WAR, the same thing.

And probably the same will happen to MMORPGs coming out in 2009.  There's just nothing good out there.  The whole inustry is just a big graveyard devoid of any life, fresh ideas, fresh execution, fresh gameplay.  Its all been dumbed and watered down thanks to WoW.  Everythings moving backward, not foward.  I would love for a true RPG mmoRPG online game.  Some people want actual substance than mindless raiding all the time.

What the hell are you talking about??

Both WAR and AoC have decent populations just cause you see people flaming AoC and WAR on this forums doesn't mean they're dying.

Hell Lotro and EQ2 have similar sub numbers to WAR and AoC do you consider them dying also??

Oh and VG isnt going anywhere if Sony can keep matrix online alive they can keep VG up easily.

last time I checked a game with over 100k subs is a long way from closing down. A game would need less than 10k subs for a developer to even consider closing the doors.

Look at games like UO, EQ and AC1 these games have an average 50-75k subs and they are going strong, SWG with 30k isnt closing anytime soon so what the hell are you talking about??

Man I love sandbox games also but freaking attacking linear games all the time is sad, go play UO/SWG emu or mess with Ryzom or eve the games are out there, stop trolling.

It's impossible for me to play a game with almost no risk in its pvp system after playing Eve.

I've tried so hard, but no game has my heart thumping through my chest during a pvp encounter like Eve online.

WAR = die respawn, die respawn, die respawn, die respawn ect, ect  then collect your gear for sucking.

WoW= WAR without the world pvp

Lotro = no pvp at all

TR= blew ass

AoC= pvp was broken when I played so I left.

Yeah so Im back playing Eve and UO Freeshard for my FFA fix

For me AO is a great game, When the Revamp happends ill be right there with my soldier.

bumpity bump bump

With the way MMOs have been going am I the only one that wishes Both UO and SWG reverted back to the way they used to be?

I'm currently playing Eve Online, While Eve is a spectacular game I still miss the good old "On foot" sandbox MMOs.

I've been pretty open minded when its come to MMO the last three to four years.

I've played Games like WoW, Lotro, Eq2, CoX and WAR that all held my interest for a decent amount of time.

These games made a decent effort of giving me a nice gameworld to play in and cute little talent trees to give me a hand full of options while setting up my characters.

While they helped me pass the time they just dont do it for me like UO or SWG did or Eve does.

Now You may be reading this and think "oh its just another sandbox fanboi" but im not I enjoy open ended worlds and having a choice when it comes to my avatar. I actually Played EQ for a long time and that game is basically what all the linear games have copied.

Anyway I miss the open ended game worlds, the near unlimited customization, the actual risk in pvp and communities that are actually social.

I'm gonna give a nod to another game before someone else brings it up in the thread.

Saga of Ryzom, Now this game is actually good. It lacks in pvp and economy however.

Its a great game but falls short of Eve, UO and SWG.

If both Sony and EA reverted SWG and UO back to the way they were I think most of us would still be playing them, even if they look dated.

Heres a poll:

Even when I played WoW i never thought of loot as what defined my character.

I became attached To my little night elf warrior because of the adventures I had.

The people I played with and the time I actually spent staring at that avatar on my computer screen.

Now to darkfall.....

What does it matter if his armor needs to be changed when he dies?

What does it matter if high level skills degrade overtime? if i let them degrade then I obviously dont need those particular skills.

My darkfall avatar will be an extension of myself, It wont matter what armor I have.

It will be about the adventures I have and the friends I make.

It's about the Oh shit moments and the bullshitting on vent that makes it all worth while not if I lose the Wtfpwn sword of doom.

Am I the only one that feels like this? Is the MMO community truely lost in this Gear grind "i own cause I gotz EPIZZZ" mentality. God I hope not that would be really sad.

Ehh I never really found Eve boring and I did the Mission grind and played solo high sec the first four months (bad Idea but I was a newb).

The game gets so much better once you join a real player owned corp.

I now live in 0.0 and have a blast playing with my friends.

Just make TR f2p, add a AD system and maybe a social cash shop.

transfer all the characters to 1 server and let it rake the money in.

makes no sense to close the game down when It could be converted to F2p and be alot better than 99% of the other F2p games on the market.

this is what happends when players play an mmo that have addictive personalities.

Sucks that you ruined your life.

First things first, Never EVER! listen to the riff raff on these forums EVER!!!

These guys go out of there way to make a game seem as shitty as possible to sway players away.

Some even make it a job (Viral marketers).

WAR is a good mmo, try it out play it through Your first 30 days and sub if you like it.

Don't ever take forum reviews seriously, If anything take magazine and official game reviews seriously and war has mostly been rated in the low 90s.

Originally posted by elocke

 yet this site does seem to have a very large majority of EVE players. Interesting.

Yeah we flood the boards since our skills can be trained offline.

Gives us more time to mess with the linear MMO fans on the forums.

Originally posted by coffee

the statment clearly states it does not include china, so that 2.8million to a player base of about 4 million EU+US players in 24 hours.

TBC sold 2.4million to a base of 3.6 million EU+US players

so its aboutt he same.

When did Wow lose two million players in NA/Euro?

Last time I checked WoW had near six million NA/Euro players. (something like 5.5 million+)

These sub numbers seem off to me.

Anyway once blizzard puts out an official report of 12 million players buying the Xpac then I will believe they have that many.

Anyone know how many copies of TBC sold? did it surpass the 12 million mark? yeah probably not.

Originally posted by weaseltje

Originally posted by metalhead980

thats all? with 12 million players they only sold 2.8 million?

seriously I think that 12 million sub statement by blizzard is bullshit.

Think about it who the hell plays wow without all the Xpacs?

Anyway grats to blizzard on the Xpac, but i still think the sub number is fabricated to make them look good.

 

2.8 million during the first 24 hours, they don't say how much they sold so far.

This is verry good.

We will see, If WotLK doesnt equal the WoW playerbase in sales i call the sub number every fanboi waves in front of a non-WoW players face bullshit.

This guy created the SW universe, why wouldn't you want him backing a project?

Just by creating the the first three SW movies this dude has God status, he could do what he wants.

thats all? with 12 million players they only sold 2.8 million?

seriously I think that 12 million sub statement by blizzard is bullshit.

Think about it who the hell plays wow without all the Xpacs?

Anyway grats to blizzard on the Xpac, but i still think the sub number is fabricated to make them look good.

hmm there are games out there that don't totally center around gear.

You should look around and stop playing WoW.

Edit: I think most of the WoW players that play and actually hate the game don't realize other Games exist.

Originally posted by Beazt

(Edit: about WoW)

Everyone who say that it was better when you could see, who was the hardcore raider, on the gear they had on....

Just lol...

What is that shit about, Who got the biggest e-peen????? seriously, HC raiders need to stop whining, go back to their cave.

They are just ego trippers, they want to be full epiced while everyone else is in full blues, so they can run around and say "STFU N00B I PWNZOR U!!!"

.... ohh thats great mate, but you also shit your pants cause raid leader wont let u BIO in the middle of your run.

smelly monkeys.

 

Thats all its ever about in gear based games.

And yes if you can't complete the raids my guild completes you deserve blues (or lesser gear). You shouldn't be able to use a welfare work around (heroics/ten mans) and have the same Item level gear as a hardcore player.

Why not just take all gear from the game? its worthless anyways right? since everyone can get the same shit.

All wow is is one big gear fashion show, always has been and always will be.

It doesn't really matter, Blizzard NGE'd my old WoW (Pre-tbc) its not worth playing anymore.

Originally posted by Sasi

 

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Originally posted by Wrender
Sasi is wise beyond belief!!
 

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LOL, you heard it here first...

Don't give me more credit than I deserve! I actually flamed someone yesterday (well, for me it was a flame, for others it may have been a mild retort) and I'm embarrassed about it. :(

LOL! bad sasi bad! 

I swear if you ever really did flame someone hell would freeze over.

It's a shame  I didn't get a chance to meet you in game during my two months playing.