have you guys seen the original post date? 10/30/06

let the thread die already

I hate this game, I liked it at first until i found out I had to pay to get ahead. You cant play to level you have to wait, and waiting = time and that costs money in subcribtion fees. Infact everything in this game is deisnged to waste time so you spend more time or money playing it. I swear they do it on purpose, lots of timesinks, like leaving the dock and the loading bar it shows is fake, it doesnt take that long to load a wallpaper world, they just put a timer on it so it takes long to do certain things so you keep paying to play every minute U waste. Some people are fooled, not me. Good game otherwise excepct for the fact it has corrupt devs which ruin a game that should have been rivaling WoW.

EvE is a great game but it needs a good company to run it. CCP have totally messed it up, the game and client are horribly buggy and from the player point of view  they don't seem to be doing anything about it. They release patches that don't solve the lag, the disconnects and the myriad of problems plaguing the game. I love EvE but I'm getting fed up because at times it's unplayable.

CCP blame many of the problems on ISP's but reading the forums indicate that unless you live next to the server you are in trouble as their ISP/server have incompatibility issues with many ISP's and networks. It's not doing EvE any favours and I think the only time CCP start to solve the problems is when people get tired and start leaving en mass which I, somtimes. hope happens because currently the game is unplayable.

I am currently looking for another game to play and when I find one CCP will lose several subscriptions.

Originally posted by bigtime102

I hate this game, I liked it at first until i found out I had to pay to get ahead. You cant play to level you have to wait, and waiting = time and that costs money in subcribtion fees. Infact everything in this game is deisnged to waste time so you spend more time or money playing it. I swear they do it on purpose, lots of timesinks, like leaving the dock and the loading bar it shows is fake, it doesnt take that long to load a wallpaper world, they just put a timer on it so it takes long to do certain things so you keep paying to play every minute U waste. Some people are fooled, not me. Good game otherwise excepct for the fact it has corrupt devs which ruin a game that should have been rivaling WoW.

See what folks dont realize is that time is relative. In Eve I click a skill and it will start training. I can tell you the day the hour the minute and the second where Ill be able to do X.

In wow... it might take me a month to get to 60 another month to get to 70 and 6 - 9 months to get into a raiding guild. Thats hundreds of hours to get to where you want.

The difference in wow you must be online to advance, while in eve your advancing 24/7. In a year you will get more bang for your buck progression wise in eve than you will in WoW... not to mention in a year you will be out of content in wow, while EvE will just keep getting better and better.

Change your view on the game, instead of omg its going to take me three days to get to use that ship, look at it from a point of view that you know for a fact in three days you can fly it, and can play the game at your level now. In three days you get an upgrade and can enjoy that method of play and aim for the next mile stone.

What really bothers that kind of players is the fact that in EVE someone can't be power leveled, that's all.

All the long road you actually MUST walk, turns him off. There is only one way to "level up" in Eve, and that takes time. Is that simple.

In other games you can "cheat" the grind at lower levels... not here. I suppose that's the reason people think "eve sux".

I agree that the game was designed to keep you "hooked" as much time as possible, but is just business. Not a scam. You can know from the begining how much time will take to attain your goal. More than that, you are working at it even when you are offline.

I AGREE TIMES 4! The community EVE has right now will stay that way cuz anyone new has no chance. I can't stand this game at all.

I agree...

Originally posted by SnaKey

Dude, read your other thread.

You're just a moron. lol

PVE isn't the focus of the game. PVE is just something that was thrown in to make the world more dynamic.

EVE isn't a solo player's game.

I'd love to see you take on a lvl 55 with only 2 months play in a game like L2.

And they would do anything to destroy that boredom. Go to lackland AFB head to the 319th squad.

And stay there for a good two weeks and try and not kill yourself before leaving. Most people would

love to just sit and watch a toon smack something and do nothing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending

eve, personally I think the game sucks hairy donkey's corpse's tail which has been rotting for 3 years, filled with festering maggots. However, I find this post pointless retarded. EVE grinds it's own way differently

and mankind doesn't like change. It's in their blood you might say. Personally I shall pick up my wireless

controller and beat this god forsaken Lost Odyssey. Freaking 4 discs.  Then after that, it's dmmm: Elements. HURRAY!! Gah.

Cheers mate,

Chaos.

I have no idea what the poster above me is on about, pvp is what this game revolves around too a far greater extent than any other. The economy is driven by pvp needs and wars (needing new materials and ships). As a miner I am producing and mining minerals which will be bought by ship builders, which will be used in a 0.0 sec war.

As for catching up, that you can never catch people is a myth. Sure you will not be able to specialise in interceptors/cruisers/battlecruisers/battleships/dreadnoughts/carriers etc like a real veteran might be able to do so, nor will you be able to specialise in as many weapon systems as he can.

But you can have good base skills like he has for pvp (navigations skills say) you can specialise in a single gunnery type and have the supports skills in the gunnery class for it, and you can specialise into flying a single ship type very well.

As soon as you have done that you can pvp, after all the veteran can only use 1 specialisation from each category needed for pvp, which is exactly what you are doing.

Oh and btw, you think In WoW you can catch people up?

I played WoW from launch, I entered end game raids MC-->BWL--Naxx very quickly, you might have 'caught me' in terms of the level cap had you started 6 months after me, but you would never catch me up in terms of my gear, I would always be in a guild 1 or even 2 end game raid instances in front of you.

Originally posted by mauchoman55

I AGREE TIMES 4! The community EVE has right now will stay that way cuz anyone new has no chance. I can't stand this game at all.

@the guy above me : great semi-necro .. tho after re-reading this thread i think a topic called "Why do you hate EvE?" or somthin like that would be hillarious

I just started playing EVE 3 months ago after leaving that shitbox of a game SWG and Im having no problem progressing in the game with skills and such it just takes time and patience and its easy to make money there also. I really think that most that didnt like it is because they didnt get their "Instant Gratification Button" with jumping to a Lev 90 with all the cool gear and ships but it doesnt work that way you have to earn it and be committed. This game isnt for the causal player or for the kiddies that want to own instantly you have to work towards it and I like the sandbox aspect of this game unlike most other MMOs these days with the cookie cutter WOW clone games this game is quite refreshing and different and better than what I was playing...

Well imo the game starts to get fun after a month of 2,..

I'm not reeely font it though,..

OK,.. I'm just gonna throw this out here...

Might this be a way to make the game more interesting to those who find Eve to be a "grind" where the "little guy" (late-comer and/or more casual player) has MUCH too little "say" in the "politics" of the game:

Give players a way to form "clubs", which are not dependent on anyone's corp affiliation, whereby "luck" in battle and in the market can be enhanced by sticking to the "bylaws" (code of conduct) of their "club"?

"Club" membership can be either overt (is displayed somehow on their character) or covert (hidden), although being OVERT gains more "luck" for the same "effort" versus being COVERT.

The more people IN the club, the more powerful the "luck bonus". The more adherent the members are to following "the code" (not disobeying) the more powerful the "luck bonus". The more time spent in "club advancement" (time which COULD have been used for "normal" skill training) the more powerful the "luck bonus".

So, might that help make Eve a bit less "boring" and/or "grindingly oppressive" to all you "little guys" (see above definition of "little guy") out there?