Originally posted by kazson

Originally posted by Huzz

how long will it take for a 9800 gx2 to be outdated?

honestly i think it will take awhile...there hasnt been a big jump in graphics performance in years...people running 7900GT's are doing just fine in most games....and nothing has pushed me to upgrade my 8800GTS yet.....so that 9800 Gx2 will stick around for awhile im sure

ah hmm so would you say that if i got another 8800gts in sli would it equal the 9800gx2? cause i hear that a 9800 is just 2 8800gts in 1 card.

Quad SLI with dual 9800 GX2:

www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/515/

Single 9800 GX2 review:

www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/512/

Originally posted by Xasapis

Quad SLI with dual 9800 GX2:

www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/515/

 

Single 9800 GX2 review:

www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/512/

lol theres 18 pages in that review.... can you sum it up?

alot of mother boards now are offering 3 pci slots to tri sli, and would it realy be all that more effective to get 2 600$ cards or 3 300 or 200$ cards? cause i'm sure there is no 6x sli for a while

www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/512/11/

Call of duty results

Originally posted by Xasapis

www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/512/11/

Call of duty results

so it's basicly 2 8800gts's alright.. i'll wait for the price to drop then. thanks!

Or you could "wait" until holodeck technology is upon us...

Don't wait, upgrade now and every 9 months.

S*D

Originally posted by miagisan

umm sorry vista is still a horrible OS even if you know the ins and outs of computers. I have 2 guild members plagued with the BSD

Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver Atikmdag has stopped responding and has successfully recovered

or

Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver R300 has stopped responding and has successfully recovered

 

And both video cards makers claim its a vista error, Microsoft acknowledges this error and after over a year they cannot/do not have a fix for it. Yet my 2 guildies cannot play any video game or program which uses a decent amount of GPU power. Go ahead and find a 100% fix and its non existent. Both were both from 3rd party (Dell and powerpc). One of them is a total pc-head who knows more than most people i met...yet still has not found a fix for it

Vista is cursed...and guarantee you it will be replaced or had have a MAJOR overhaul before xp stops getting support in 2014. If it wasn't for DX10 Vista would have been dead and buried already.

I've used Vista 32 and i'm using Vista 64 now, all those problems your mates are having that you listed are driver related problems. You just need the latest nForce/Forceware/ATi Catalyst drivers and that should stop the problems. There are even Hotfixes out there from Microsoft.

I'm having no probalems at all with Vista, i have at present these old titles installed on my Vista 64 machine.....

StarCraft (1998)

Outcast (1999)

Rune (2000)

Deus EX (2000)

WarCraft III (2002)

Jedi Knight II : Jedi Outcast (2002)

I haven't had a single probalem with any of them and haven't needed to tweak anything. Juat install theb games and patch them up to date, no problems.

As for more recent titles i have installed at the moment....

COD4

Sin of a Solar Empire

C&C 3 Tiberium Wars and Kanes Wrath

The Orange Box (Half-Life, Half-Life 2 ect ect)

Savage 2

Fable The Lost Chapters

Warhammer Mark of Chaos

The Witcher

WoW

Lotro

The only game on this list that doesn't work properly is The Witcher but if go on thier tech forum you will see people with XP having the same problems. Theb only other game that i can't get to work properly is UTIII but again it doesn't work everyone on XP either.

Vista isn't the probelm it's lazy and slack development of games.

Originally posted by harg

 

Originally posted by miagisan

umm sorry vista is still a horrible OS even if you know the ins and outs of computers. I have 2 guild members plagued with the BSD

Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver Atikmdag has stopped responding and has successfully recovered

or

Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver R300 has stopped responding and has successfully recovered

 

And both video cards makers claim its a vista error, Microsoft acknowledges this error and after over a year they cannot/do not have a fix for it. Yet my 2 guildies cannot play any video game or program which uses a decent amount of GPU power. Go ahead and find a 100% fix and its non existent. Both were both from 3rd party (Dell and powerpc). One of them is a total pc-head who knows more than most people i met...yet still has not found a fix for it

Vista is cursed...and guarantee you it will be replaced or had have a MAJOR overhaul before xp stops getting support in 2014. If it wasn't for DX10 Vista would have been dead and buried already.

 

I've used Vista 32 and i'm using Vista 64 now, all those problems your mates are having that you listed are driver related problems. You just need the latest nForce/Forceware/ATi Catalyst drivers and that should stop the problems. There are even Hotfixes out there from Microsoft.

I'm having no probalems at all with Vista, i have at present these old titles installed on my Vista 64 machine.....

StarCraft (1998)

Outcast (1999)

Rune (2000)

Deus EX (2000)

WarCraft III (2002)

Jedi Knight II : Jedi Outcast (2002)

I haven't had a single probalem with any of them and haven't needed to tweak anything. Juat install theb games and patch them up to date, no problems.

As for more recent titles i have installed at the moment....

COD4

Sin of a Solar Empire

C&C 3 Tiberium Wars and Kanes Wrath

The Orange Box (Half-Life, Half-Life 2 ect ect)

Savage 2

Fable The Lost Chapters

Warhammer Mark of Chaos

The Witcher

WoW

Lotro

The only game on this list that doesn't work properly is The Witcher but if go on thier tech forum you will see people with XP having the same problems. Theb only other game that i can't get to work properly is UTIII but again it doesn't work everyone on XP either.

Vista isn't the probelm it's lazy and slack development of games.

Oh and if vista is not shitty, then why is it already scheduled for death by 2010/2011, and microsoft already working on Windows Vienna (aka Windows 7). This would give Vista a shorter lifespan than even Windows ME.

Originally posted by miagisan

 

Originally posted by harg

 

Originally posted by miagisan

umm sorry vista is still a horrible OS even if you know the ins and outs of computers. I have 2 guild members plagued with the BSD

Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver Atikmdag has stopped responding and has successfully recovered

or

Display driver has stopped running and has recovered
Display driver R300 has stopped responding and has successfully recovered

 

And both video cards makers claim its a vista error, Microsoft acknowledges this error and after over a year they cannot/do not have a fix for it. Yet my 2 guildies cannot play any video game or program which uses a decent amount of GPU power. Go ahead and find a 100% fix and its non existent. Both were both from 3rd party (Dell and powerpc). One of them is a total pc-head who knows more than most people i met...yet still has not found a fix for it

Vista is cursed...and guarantee you it will be replaced or had have a MAJOR overhaul before xp stops getting support in 2014. If it wasn't for DX10 Vista would have been dead and buried already.

 

I've used Vista 32 and i'm using Vista 64 now, all those problems your mates are having that you listed are driver related problems. You just need the latest nForce/Forceware/ATi Catalyst drivers and that should stop the problems. There are even Hotfixes out there from Microsoft.

I'm having no probalems at all with Vista, i have at present these old titles installed on my Vista 64 machine.....

StarCraft (1998)

Outcast (1999)

Rune (2000)

Deus EX (2000)

WarCraft III (2002)

Jedi Knight II : Jedi Outcast (2002)

I haven't had a single probalem with any of them and haven't needed to tweak anything. Juat install theb games and patch them up to date, no problems.

As for more recent titles i have installed at the moment....

COD4

Sin of a Solar Empire

C&C 3 Tiberium Wars and Kanes Wrath

The Orange Box (Half-Life, Half-Life 2 ect ect)

Savage 2

Fable The Lost Chapters

Warhammer Mark of Chaos

The Witcher

WoW

Lotro

The only game on this list that doesn't work properly is The Witcher but if go on thier tech forum you will see people with XP having the same problems. Theb only other game that i can't get to work properly is UTIII but again it doesn't work everyone on XP either.

Vista isn't the probelm it's lazy and slack development of games.

Apparantly you did not read my thread.  ATI and NVIDIA both with the same error? and btw there have been numberous updates to the drivers since these problems started and with no avail. People have even replaced whole video cards which caused the error to come back 2 - 3 weeks later. Google these two error messages and you will see hundreds of forums and tech boards complaining of the error, with no fixes. I dare ya....google them.

 

Oh and if vista is not shitty, then why is it already scheduled for death by 2010/2011, and microsoft already working on Windows Vienna (aka Windows 7). This would give Vista a shorter lifespan than even Windows ME.

The launch of Windows 7 won't kill Vista, it will however be the final nail in the coffin for XP. And just for your information Microssoft were working on Windows 7 before Vista was even released, just like they were working on Longhorn (Vista) before XP was released. Vista is nothing like ME, Vista is far more stable then ME, has a better memory management, better audio stack, better UI, and DX10 (which isn't a flop like people say, there aren't even any true DX10 games out). You don't half spout some amount of shite, Vista is only on SP1 which is pretty good, once it's on SP2 it should far exceed XP in games performance. I remeber when everyone used to bash XP and proclaim " i won't move from 98 " and look, they all moved to XP eventually. Same thing will happen with Vista.

Anyway the problems you keep going on about can be easily resolved by 1. uninstalling video drivers 2. restart computer in safe mode 3. Use software such as driversweeper to remove all Nvidia/ATi video drivers 4. restart computer in standard mode and then install drivers. You will however have to this with multiple drivers until you find the one that works best for you. I don't need to google it mate, i have had those same problems but solved them by trying out different drivers. At the moment im on forceware 174.74 and having no problems.

Using this thing called the internet you can find answers to the problems your friends are having. Use sites like guru3d.com and check their forums.

You can easily build an awesome pc for under $1000 that will totally kick ass in AOC.

I just ordered this system from ncix.com:

Total Cost - $850

Also you could cut 300 bucks from that system by substituting a cheaper CPU, cheaper case, and geforce 9600 instead, and it would still be a pretty nice setup.

I think we have solidly shown that

1) gaming is a hobby that requires investment of funds

2) said investment will be easily met with 1000$/€ per year

3) the investment in this hobby is significantly less than most other pasttimes.

Yours in Hobby Plasma,

Star*Dagger

Originally posted by Praxus

You can easily build an awesome pc for under $1000 that will totally kick ass in AOC.

I just ordered this system from ncix.com:

 

27704	EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GT 600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card	1	$219.99
27144	Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 3.5IN 500GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive	1	$97.99
17225	Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro LGA775 2500RPM 45CFM	1	$26.01
25472	Corsair CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX 12V 33A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan	1	$69.98
21123	Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio	1	$88.99