Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by waverat81

How did this thread go from an issue with zones to invisible walls?

i think it was the first post in this thread

Ahh ok, I had actually forgot what the first post said and started getting confused by so many different things being thrown around in this thread.

Originally posted by PkhBasko

I have recently been told that the AoC Environment will not be totally free to roam around. I have heard that there will be a very straight/set path or something along those lines to follow. Is this a true statement?

Wait... so some of you are cancelling pre order based on this statement.... WOW.

What happened to all the negative people who always say never buy anything without trying it first??

So people cancel pre orders (like all 4 of you) then wont even look at the game? thats too funny, I mean, its worthy of a comedy sketch.

There is ample opportunity to try the game out before putting $$$ down. Especially for those people who are unsure to begin with, why you even pre-order in the first place?

I mean isn't it you guys who are like "I've been burned before" etc etc etc etc  How come none of you are taking your own medicine?   T-R-Y   B-E-F-O-R-E   Y-O-U   B-U-Y

Its looks like there will be an IGN weekend special, Invited Open beta (just like war's), There will be thousands of buddy keys out there and a trial at somepoint.

Those that pre-order are those that know enough about the game that they know they will enjoy it. And thats fair enough.

Even those that are the upmost cynical and pessimistic, can hear all about the game after launch then pick up a free trial.

At least make you own mind up on experience and not on hearsay from someone asking what the game might be like, followed by a couple of people (who I know aren't in beta) throwing a couple of troll comments out there.

Kinda sad seeing SOME vets of mmorpg.com act like this tbh.

I agree Avery!  Try before you buy!  That is why you know me and you have my PM box here.  When the game goes live if you think I might like the crafting system, shoot me a buddy key.  I'm always willing to try any game.  Unfortunately, with regards to crafting, they have to show me something before a plunk down any money for them.

Originally posted by Shannia

I agree Avery!  Try before you buy!  That is why you know me and you have my PM box here.  When the game goes live if you think I might like the crafting system, shoot me a buddy key.  I'm always willing to try any game.  Unfortunately, with regards to crafting, they have to show me something before a plunk down any money for them.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what you say. Yea I am a fan of the game, I believe a hell of alot of people will enjoy it for its content and mechanics. I've never told anyone to go pre-order to fork out money or whatever. I'm a staunch defender of try before you buy, please for the love of god, I hope nobody takes my enthusiasm for blind supportiveness of buying the game without trying it first. I've never had that stance.

There is plenty of opportunity for people to try it out just before and just after release and a little way down the road.

I think the populous will like what they see on the whole.

And the stance the devs take are that it won't appeal to everyone, so we all know where we stand.

I do honestly believe a hell of alot of people will enjoy the game. But at the end of the day is you lot who should make your own mind up. Not someones elses factless opinions on your behalf and whats worse is you dont even know them!!   (not you shannia)

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery

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Originally posted by PkhBasko

I have recently been told that the AoC Environment will not be totally free to roam around. I have heard that there will be a very straight/set path or something along those lines to follow. Is this a true statement?

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Wait... so some of you are cancelling pre order based on this statement.... WOW.
What happened to all the negative people who always say never buy anything without trying it first??
So people cancel pre orders (like all 4 of you) then wont even look at the game? thats too funny, I mean, its worthy of a comedy sketch.
There is ample opportunity to try the game out before putting $$$ down. Especially for those people who are unsure to begin with, why you even pre-order in the first place?
I mean isn't it you guys who are like "I've been burned before" etc etc etc etc How come none of you are taking your own medicine? T-R-Y B-E-F-O-R-E Y-O-U B-U-Y
Its looks like there will be an IGN weekend special, Invited Open beta (just like war's), There will be thousands of buddy keys out there and a trial at somepoint.
Those that pre-order are those that know enough about the game that they know they will enjoy it. And thats fair enough.
Even those that are the upmost cynical and pessimistic, can hear all about the game after launch then pick up a free trial.
At least make you own mind up on experience and not on hearsay from someone asking what the game might be like, followed by a couple of people (who I know aren't in beta) throwing a couple of troll comments out there.
Kinda sad seeing SOME vets of mmorpg.com act like this tbh.

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What you trying to say exactly? No one is obligated to buy this game or keep their pre-order. This bit of news of which has even been posted in the AoC forums is more then enough for those who like open environments to cancel any pre-orders and wait for reviews by players at launch.

Why should anyone feel obligated to reward Funcom with a pre-order anyways? No one needs to keep a pre-order if they find out news about a feature they really dislike being in the game. If people were hyped about the game and now they are not it's okay. It's their money and right not to buy this game period. Waiting for a review of the game after it launch is just as good was "TRYING BEFORE BUYING". It's Funcom's job to clarify this bit of news not ours.

Originally posted by M1sf1t

 

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery

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Originally posted by PkhBasko

 

I have recently been told that the AoC Environment will not be totally free to roam around. I have heard that there will be a very straight/set path or something along those lines to follow. Is this a true statement?

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Wait... so some of you are cancelling pre order based on this statement.... WOW.
What happened to all the negative people who always say never buy anything without trying it first??
So people cancel pre orders (like all 4 of you) then wont even look at the game? thats too funny, I mean, its worthy of a comedy sketch.
There is ample opportunity to try the game out before putting $$$ down. Especially for those people who are unsure to begin with, why you even pre-order in the first place?
I mean isn't it you guys who are like "I've been burned before" etc etc etc etc How come none of you are taking your own medicine? T-R-Y B-E-F-O-R-E Y-O-U B-U-Y
Its looks like there will be an IGN weekend special, Invited Open beta (just like war's), There will be thousands of buddy keys out there and a trial at somepoint.
Those that pre-order are those that know enough about the game that they know they will enjoy it. And thats fair enough.
Even those that are the upmost cynical and pessimistic, can hear all about the game after launch then pick up a free trial.
At least make you own mind up on experience and not on hearsay from someone asking what the game might be like, followed by a couple of people (who I know aren't in beta) throwing a couple of troll comments out there.
Kinda sad seeing SOME vets of mmorpg.com act like this tbh.

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What you trying to say exactly? No one is obligated to buy this game or keep their pre-order. This bit of news of which has even been posted in the AoC forums is more then enough for those who like open environments to cancel any pre-orders and wait for reviews by players at launch.

Why should anyone feel obligated to reward Funcom with a pre-order anyways? No one needs to keep a pre-order if they find out news about a feature they really dislike being in the game. If people were hyped about the game and now they are not it's okay. It's their money and right not to buy this game period. Waiting for a review of the game after it launch is just as good was "TRYING BEFORE BUYING". It's Funcom's job to clarify this bit of news not ours.

A bit of new thats posted by people who don't know, who aren't in beta, who are asking questions what its like. Funcom have clarified everything they need to with the environment, its old news buddy, if your interested in the game its your job to keep up to date, Funcom have kept those that are interested up to date with more info I reckon than anyother company this year who have a game due for release.

For the record people can cancel their pre-order Im not arguing that, I'm simply addressing those that flat out just post "not playing this game anymore" or "not buying now". Im saying try before you buy or wait for reviews. just don't rule it out on hearsay. Thought I made that clear.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by PkhBasko

I have recently been told that the AoC Environment will not be totally free to roam around. I have heard that there will be a very straight/set path or something along those lines to follow. Is this a true statement?

 

Wait... so some of you are cancelling pre order based on this statement.... WOW.

shocking isnt it.

What happened to all the negative people who always say never buy anything without trying it first??

Thats what free week trials are for

So people cancel pre orders (like all 4 of you) then wont even look at the game? thats too funny, I mean, its worthy of a comedy sketch.

I wouldn't say its a comedy sketch funny...thats just too damn geeky to compare that to a comedic sketch.  A group of infants beating a homeless man to death with soiled diapers could be a comedic sketch; I wouldn't think people cancelling a pre order is considered a sketch

There is ample opportunity to try the game out before putting $$$ down. Especially for those people who are unsure to begin with, why you even pre-order in the first place?

Thats a free trial.  I cancelled my pre order but it wasn't just because of the "invisible wall issue" for me. There were other issues too. Mostly, I couldnt believed I pre ordered a MMO in the first place. That's usually a no no for me considering about 80% of all MMOs turn out to be crap.

Free trials is the "ample opportunity" to try the game before putting $$$ down.

I mean isn't it you guys who are like "I've been burned before" etc etc etc etc  How come none of you are taking your own medicine?   T-R-Y   B-E-F-O-R-E   Y-O-U   B-U-Y

Exactly. No to preorder. Yes to trial. And yes, a trial will be out within six months after release. I can wait ;o)

Its looks like there will be an IGN weekend special, Invited Open beta (just like war's), There will be thousands of buddy keys out there and a trial at somepoint.

That's what im shooting for :)

Those that pre-order are those that know enough about the game that they know they will enjoy it. And thats fair enough.

Tell those to the Dark N Light Preorder folks

Even those that are the upmost cynical and pessimistic, can hear all about the game after launch then pick up a free trial.

Exactly

At least make you own mind up on experience and not on hearsay from someone asking what the game might be like, followed by a couple of people (who I know aren't in beta) throwing a couple of troll comments out there.

Until I hear that the MMO world after lvl 20 is free roaming from a Developer or experiencing for myself, Ill wait for the trial. Not a slap against the fans, but i've seen my fair share of great hyped up games falling faster than Gary Coleman's career. Im not taking that chance right yet

Kinda sad seeing SOME vets of mmorpg.com act like this tbh.

ehh. Its normal. Don't worry about us. Youll need to worry about those folks who play the game and hate it and then post here about it. Those are the ones youll need to worry about. That will happen. Just be ready for it. It happens with every MMO. Fanboys vs haters. Normal stuff around here.

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by PkhBasko

I have recently been told that the AoC Environment will not be totally free to roam around. I have heard that there will be a very straight/set path or something along those lines to follow. Is this a true statement?

 

Wait... so some of you are cancelling pre order based on this statement.... WOW.

shocking isnt it.

What happened to all the negative people who always say never buy anything without trying it first??

Thats what free week trials are for

So people cancel pre orders (like all 4 of you) then wont even look at the game? thats too funny, I mean, its worthy of a comedy sketch.

I wouldn't say its a comedy sketch funny...thats just too damn geeky to compare that to a comedic sketch.  A group of infants beating a homeless man to death with soiled diapers could be a comedic sketch; I wouldn't think people cancelling a pre order is considered a sketch

There is ample opportunity to try the game out before putting $$$ down. Especially for those people who are unsure to begin with, why you even pre-order in the first place?

Thats a free trial.  I cancelled my pre order but it wasn't just because of the "invisible wall issue" for me. There were other issues too. Mostly, I couldnt believed I pre ordered a MMO in the first place. That's usually a no no for me considering about 80% of all MMOs turn out to be crap.

Free trials is the "ample opportunity" to try the game before putting $$$ down.

I mean isn't it you guys who are like "I've been burned before" etc etc etc etc  How come none of you are taking your own medicine?   T-R-Y   B-E-F-O-R-E   Y-O-U   B-U-Y

Exactly. No to preorder. Yes to trial. And yes, a trial will be out within six months after release. I can wait ;o)

Its looks like there will be an IGN weekend special, Invited Open beta (just like war's), There will be thousands of buddy keys out there and a trial at somepoint.

That's what im shooting for :)

Those that pre-order are those that know enough about the game that they know they will enjoy it. And thats fair enough.

Tell those to the Dark N Light Preorder folks

Even those that are the upmost cynical and pessimistic, can hear all about the game after launch then pick up a free trial.

Exactly

At least make you own mind up on experience and not on hearsay from someone asking what the game might be like, followed by a couple of people (who I know aren't in beta) throwing a couple of troll comments out there.

Until I hear that the MMO world after lvl 20 is free roaming from a Developer or experiencing for myself, Ill wait for the trial. Not a slap against the fans, but i've seen my fair share of great hyped up games falling faster than Gary Coleman's career. Im not taking that chance right yet

Kinda sad seeing SOME vets of mmorpg.com act like this tbh.

ehh. Its normal. Don't worry about us. Youll need to worry about those folks who play the game and hate it and then post here about it. Those are the ones youll need to worry about. That will happen. Just be ready for it. It happens with every MMO. Fanboys vs haters. Normal stuff around here.

 

Eh, So.....you basicly agree within just about everything Avery said or has said before lol wtf?,

I've heard that the restrictions are not invisible walls or anything like that, more like set paths often restricted by natural barriers. There are smaller instances where you can run pretty much wherever you like if roaming around is your thing.

I'll pass the advice given to me, don't pre order. Give it a try first before launch.

This is my first post on this forum... usually I just pass by forums on this website to just get the basic jist of a game (in this case whether or not to go with AoC or WAR when it comes out) but this topic is really interesting to me.

The reason free roaming works for a game like WoW is because the graphics are very simplistic and mapped in their own seperate ways. As for example, characters are not "unique"; they follow an exact design. The same goes for their environment, like the trees, and the terrains. Therefore the game runs almost seamlessly on almost any platform, yet the graphics aren't "too" flawless (I actually applaud Blizzard for their simplistic yet somewhat detailed designs, they're very intelligent).

What I feel AoC will be like is similar to how games like City of Heroes/Villains works. They had a highly immersive character design and greatly detailed environments. Because of this, they had to make different "zones". The zones were certainly not small (if comparing to WoW it would be somewhere along the lines of the size of the Barrens for each) and if you wished to continue onward, all that you really needed to do was just wait for the load screen, which usually was a very short wait. The only difference between "free-roaming" and "zones" is that for zones, everything has much more detail and runs at the same quality, your computer just has to go through more preparation to get through certain areas, which to me is worth it. I'm still not sure whether I'm going with AoC or WAR but atm I'm leaning more towards AoC, simply because it looks a lot more beautifully detailed graphic-wise and I absolutely adore the character creation system... not to mention I'm just sick of WoW and anything really similar to it (I realize WAR technically came before WoW, but I've just burnt out on elves and midgets, kthxbai).