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Amorphism  11/22/06 10:33:19 AM

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Ok, I've waited for someone to say that, and no1 has, so I'll be the chosen one (by myself).

Most, if not all, of the 250 beta winners have read the following Post by Mr. Marco van Haren, also known as - Freeze_TCoS, the PR Manager of TCoS.


Originally posted by Freeze_TCoS
Hey Guys, A quick update here from Spellborn HQ:

Winners can expect more details and information via email within 2 weeks.

Cheers, Marco 'Freeze' van Haren PR Manager TCoS



I edited the original message to make it shorter and more concise.


This was posted in 4/11/06, Two weeks have evidently past already, I did not received any email from the company.
For me this is dissapointing, we are all (potential) future customers, and we won fair and square in that contest. They should tell us of any delays, by mail.

 
shae  11/22/06 11:06:05 AM

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"Don''t take life seriously because you can''t come out of it alive."

- Warren Miller

So ok, let me get this straight.

You win something, completely free, above hundreds of thousands people that have been waiting to get in for 3 years and know the game, it's developers and it's community inside and out. You WIN this from a company whome you know is in it's final months of ACTIVE development and is probably working around the clock to get a quality product out in to the market and even with EVERYTHING going on they still had the courtesy to at least take a minute and tell you they are getting to you shortly.

And even with ALLLLLL that, your going to start to say that Spellborn is losing credibility because they havn't gotten to you fast enough? Because they might take what... 1 week, 2 weeks, ok lets say worse case scenario even 3 weeks longer then they thought it would be?

Wow well you know what, I feel horrible for those that lost a chance of being in Beta and you managed to get in but just so you don't freak out to bad, no company has ever run a beta better then the boys and girls over at TCoS so don't get your knickers in a bunch to quickly, I'm sure you'll be getting notified of something really soon.

 

Amorphism  11/22/06 11:53:00 AM

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I was expecting one of you to try to turn me into a whining asshole, so congrats shae, you got the job.

Well, depnding on your POV this could be a whining post but I think that I'm not asking for something out of the legitimate realm, because they, as you say, "at least take a minute and tell you they are getting" but with a date - two weeks. I didn't post this exactly on the day they promised to notify us, I waited.. and then thought a word in the subject would be nice.


shae said:
"and even with EVERYTHING going on they still had the courtesy to at least take a minute and tell you they are getting to you shortly."

By the way, Freeze is a PR manager, so letting people know things on the game over online boards is one of is job functions, so don't make it so big as a courtesy, you're really exaggerating.
 
shae  11/23/06 1:18:12 PM

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Originally posted by Amorphism
I was expecting one of you to try to turn me into a whining asshole, so congrats shae, you got the job.

Well, depnding on your POV this could be a whining post but I think that I'm not asking for something out of the legitimate realm, because they, as you say, "at least take a minute and tell you they are getting" but with a date - two weeks. I didn't post this exactly on the day they promised to notify us, I waited.. and then thought a word in the subject would be nice.


shae said:
"and even with EVERYTHING going on they still had the courtesy to at least take a minute and tell you they are getting to you shortly."

By the way, Freeze is a PR manager, so letting people know things on the game over online boards is one of is job functions, so don't make it so big as a courtesy, you're really exaggerating.

Well firstly Amo, I didn't call you an asshole or accuse you of whinning. Had I felt that way, and ask anyone in these forums, you'd know it because I would have said it. I don't think you are either and if you got the impression thats what I was trying to impress on you then I appologize as I was probably harsher then called for.

My point WAS this though. It's a rough time for the folks over at TCoS and they are working their collective touches off. You are absolute right, it is Freezes job as the PR guy to get information out but it's also not his only responsibility, his is a very WIIIIDE sweeping title. In times like this, hours spent at work are chaotic at best, it only stands to reason that some things will take some little bit of time and I really don't think thats unreasonable considering the goings on.

Also, as I said, lots of people have been waiting for YEARS to get into beta. They have been part of the community, contributed and have loved the project from the begining AND still have yet to even be considered for a Beta account. Someone getting their 'rant-on" about not being responded to effeciently enough is well... a little rude to these people and it would be great if you could perhaps just a show a little class in this instance and know theres others out that would absolutely love to be in your position, having a Beta secured and waiting for you shortly.

Beyond all that! There are large posibility's that there is a overall plan to get you into Beta properly, with a minimum amount of technical difficulty's for you to endure. This takes planning and clarifying before everyone knows what's going on, if there is a hold up, I'm sure that would be it.

Kungfubar  11/23/06 5:21:38 PM

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well if shae won't say it, I will.   what a cry baby, i'm waiting for a beta key too.  But you don't see me being an impatient douche.
 
Amorphism  11/23/06 5:57:48 PM

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Originally posted by Kungfubar
well if shae won't say it, I will.   what a cry baby, i'm waiting for a beta key too.  But you don't see me being an impatient douche.

Yeah, I'm being "impatient douche" about something *they* declared. If they were'nt saying something in the line of - "wait till middle of novmeber" I wouldn't have said anything. But this is clearly not the case.
I think a company, ANY company, that wants to have customers should be responsible for what they announce to those future-customers.

Maybe I'm wrong all the way, and you Kunfubar are a representative of the majority, that doesn't care if official peronal tells him something and doesn't keep his word. I thought that maybe other thinks that it's NOT okay.
Why? because if it a lot of people were saying that, it WILL catch the company attention and things will be in motion.

Anyway, I said enough, maybe I'm alone at this opinion, and that's also fine.

Over And Out.
 
Freeze_TCoS  11/23/06 6:15:31 PM

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Hey Guys,

Sorry for not getting back to you before the specified date.

The last few weeks have been extremely busy with a major presence at the G* games expo in Korea and numerous engagements that have resulted from this undertaking. While this didn't have any effect on the development progress, it did take quite some effort from our marketing staff. That same staff is also responsible for a new upcoming trailer that is scheduled to launch on the 30th of November. The content of that trailer got the attention from some major entertainment outlets, which again drove our marketing staff into working 24 hour days.

Behind all this good news lies that sad fact that we didn't deliver on our promise; something that we will make up very soon with an email update too all winners.

Hope this helps (a bit).

More info soon!

Cheers,

Marco 'Freeze' van Haren
TCoS

www.tcos.com

Timzilla  11/23/06 6:44:15 PM

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Originally posted by Amorphism

Ok, I've waited for someone to say that, and no1 has, so I'll be the chosen one (by myself).

Most, if not all, of the 250 beta winners have read the following Post by Mr. Marco van Haren, also known as - Freeze_TCoS, the PR Manager of TCoS.


Originally posted by Freeze_TCoS
Hey Guys, A quick update here from Spellborn HQ:

Winners can expect more details and information via email within 2 weeks.

Cheers, Marco 'Freeze' van Haren PR Manager TCoS



I edited the original message to make it shorter and more concise.


This was posted in 4/11/06, Two weeks have evidently past already, I did not received any email from the company.
For me this is dissapointing, we are all (potential) future customers, and we won fair and square in that contest. They should tell us of any delays, by mail.


GJ
 
Zuba  11/23/06 6:58:22 PM

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nonsense i appied for beta a few days ago on spellborn, i know there is no chance of me geting in anyway i just thought out of randomness, hehe a very long que for beta testers. im in a simiar position myself i asked a gm from 9dragons about server irregularities and havent had a response for almost 1 week. i know how frustrationg that is but i wait.

ever heard of the saying. 'good things come to those who wait'?. patience isnt a virtue of mine and i hate having to wait for things, heres something else for me to think about while im at it. i love formula 1 racing and it wont be on until next year, march 18th about 125 days away from when this post has been dated, its along time. but relating to what this was about, well i think you can figure it out.

Siduris  11/23/06 7:12:00 PM

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I think its good to apply for betas for games you think your going to purchase even if you know you wont get in.. i imagine that it helps give the developers an idea of the population they will have once released, and thats good for every one although i have never made an mmorpg so this is purely suspicion.
 
alpha0meqa  11/23/06 7:23:31 PM

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Originally posted by Freeze_TCoS

Hey Guys,

Sorry for not getting back to you before the specified date.

The last few weeks have been extremely busy with a major presence at the G* games expo in Korea and numerous engagements that have resulted from this undertaking. While this didn't have any effect on the development progress, it did take quite some effort from our marketing staff. That same staff is also responsible for a new upcoming trailer that is scheduled to launch on the 30th of November. The content of that trailer got the attention from some major entertainment outlets, which again drove our marketing staff into working 24 hour days.

Behind all this good news lies that sad fact that we didn't deliver on our promise; something that we will make up very soon with an email update too all winners.

Hope this helps (a bit).

More info soon!

Cheers,

Marco 'Freeze' van Haren
TCoS


So will we be getting an email before the end of nov still or no?
 
Amorphism  11/24/06 7:03:32 AM

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Hey Mr. Freeze,

Thank you for giving us heads up on what's going on. I hope my post wasn't too harsh, it was meant to
elevate awarness (and to some extent it did, I guess).

Anyway, I'm glad your game got such media-attention, this kind of promotion is vital for game success, sometimes
even more than the actual game mechanics.

Well, all I can say now is that I hope you won't disappoint on ". . .very soon with an email update" and I shall be waiting to an email from your company.
 
sly220  11/24/06 7:49:06 AM