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Originally posted by Aethios
Wow, I'm surprised at the negativity of the responses. I really thought that my reply was totally appropriate to the topic at hand. After all, Shae, I'm not asking them to jump. I'm asking them to put down the crappy marketing materials and put out the server they promised over a month ago. Is that really so bad? I'd understand the hostility if I were simply whining about the date being too far ahead, or even that they hadn't set a date. Yes, in those situations I would be a whiner.

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Allow me to correct your faulty logic:

People respond to whiners who act entitled to something they are NOT entitled to because of that reason alone. You aren't entitled to what you believe yourself to be, and believing this has produced an attitude in you which will evoke hostility. Lacking the awareness to understand that not receiving something when it is promised due to the choices this company has made does not entitle you to any sort of angry outburst, period. Like everything in life, an event entitles you to a response, and that response can be ANYTHING you choose, including actions that paint you more like a grownup and less like a petulant child.

There are certain feelings that arise when one is told something will happen a certain way and it doesn't, and being upset is a natural response, but your disappointment does not entitle you to anything, any more than the reason for it arising. You've already made some poor choices in how you've chosen to voice your disappointment. What you do from there is entirely up to you. You could, for instance, realize you're being an utter prat and correct your behavior, turn over a new leaf, and start to exercise a bit of self-control and patience. You could instead become even more bull-headed, refuse to log into Spellborn at all, and "show them" what it means to disappoint a potential customer. They won't be getting YOUR money, that'll show them! I'm sure that you can think of dozens more responses running the full spectrum of graciousness to vindictiveness that are yours for the choosing. Just don't go fooling yourself into thinking that acts "against" you entitle you to any sort of specific response. Doing so will close you off to more than just the eager anticipation of trying what appears to be an amazing game.

To instruct by means of example, if you're entitled to make angry outbursts over situations like this, then we are entitled to tear you a new one because you're ungrateful, impatient, and demanding. Of course, I don't feel entitled to do this, rather I feel compelled to do so, since, despite your ability to form words into coherent sentences, your thought processes seem largely devoid of logic.

I hope my words don't strike you as insulting, as I did not intend this as an insult. I do sincerely hope you can find it in your heart to forgive them the delay and enter Spellborn with an open mind and an eagerness to test the game and make helpful suggestions.

Edit: Corrected a misspelling.

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Originally posted by delateur

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Originally posted by Aethios
Wow, I'm surprised at the negativity of the responses. I really thought that my reply was totally appropriate to the topic at hand. After all, Shae, I'm not asking them to jump. I'm asking them to put down the crappy marketing materials and put out the server they promised over a month ago. Is that really so bad? I'd understand the hostility if I were simply whining about the date being too far ahead, or even that they hadn't set a date. Yes, in those situations I would be a whiner.

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Allow me to correct your faulty logic:

People respond to whiners who act entitled to something they are NOT entitled to because of that reason alone. You aren't entitled to what you believe yourself to be, and believing this has produced an attitude in you which will evoke hostility. Lacking the awareness to understand that not receiving something when it is promised due to the choices this company has made does not entitle you to any sort of angry outburst, period. Like everything in life, an event entitles you to a response, and that response can be ANYTHING you choose, including actions that paint you more like a grownup and less like a petulant child.

There are certain feelings that arise when one is told something will happen a certain way and it doesn't, and being upset is a natural response, but your disappointment does not entitle you to anything, any more than the reason for it arising. You've already made some poor choices in how you've chosen to voice your disappointment. What you do from there is entirely up to you. You could, for instance, realize you're being an utter prat and correct your behavior, turn over a new leaf, and start to exercise a bit of self-control and patience. You could instead become even more bull-headed, refuse to log into Spellborn at all, and "show them" what it means to disappoint a potential customer. They won't bet getting YOUR money, that'll show them! I'm sure that you can think of dozens more responses running the full spectrum of graciousness to vindictiveness that are yours for the choosing. Just don't go fooling yourself into thinking that acts "against" you entitle you to any sort of specific response. Doing so will close you off to more than just the eager anticipation of trying what appears to be an amazing game.

To instruct by means of example, if you're entitled to make angry outbursts over situations like this, then we are entitled to tear you a new one because you're ungrateful, impatient, and demanding. Of course, I don't feel entitled to do this, rather I feel compelled to do so, since, despite your ability to form words into coherent sentences, your thought processes seem largely devoid of logic.

I hope my words don't strike you as insulting, as I did not intend this as an insult. I do sincerely hope you can find it in your heart to forgive them the delay and enter Spellborn with an open mind and an eagerness to test the game and make helpful suggestions.

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Originally posted by delateur

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Originally posted by Aethios
Wow, I'm surprised at the negativity of the responses. I really thought that my reply was totally appropriate to the topic at hand. After all, Shae, I'm not asking them to jump. I'm asking them to put down the crappy marketing materials and put out the server they promised over a month ago. Is that really so bad? I'd understand the hostility if I were simply whining about the date being too far ahead, or even that they hadn't set a date. Yes, in those situations I would be a whiner.

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Allow me to correct your faulty logic:

People respond to whiners who act entitled to something they are NOT entitled to because of that reason alone. You aren't entitled to what you believe yourself to be, and believing this has produced an attitude in you which will evoke hostility. Lacking the awareness to understand that not receiving something when it is promised due to the choices this company has made does not entitle you to any sort of angry outburst, period. Like everything in life, an event entitles you to a response, and that response can be ANYTHING you choose, including actions that paint you more like a grownup and less like a petulant child.

There are certain feelings that arise when one is told something will happen a certain way and it doesn't, and being upset is a natural response, but your disappointment does not entitle you to anything, any more than the reason for it arising. You've already made some poor choices in how you've chosen to voice your disappointment. What you do from there is entirely up to you. You could, for instance, realize you're being an utter prat and correct your behavior, turn over a new leaf, and start to exercise a bit of self-control and patience. You could instead become even more bull-headed, refuse to log into Spellborn at all, and "show them" what it means to disappoint a potential customer. They won't bet getting YOUR money, that'll show them! I'm sure that you can think of dozens more responses running the full spectrum of graciousness to vindictiveness that are yours for the choosing. Just don't go fooling yourself into thinking that acts "against" you entitle you to any sort of specific response. Doing so will close you off to more than just the eager anticipation of trying what appears to be an amazing game.

To instruct by means of example, if you're entitled to make angry outbursts over situations like this, then we are entitled to tear you a new one because you're ungrateful, impatient, and demanding. Of course, I don't feel entitled to do this, rather I feel compelled to do so, since, despite your ability to form words into coherent sentences, your thought processes seem largely devoid of logic.

I hope my words don't strike you as insulting, as I did not intend this as an insult. I do sincerely hope you can find it in your heart to forgive them the delay and enter Spellborn with an open mind and an eagerness to test the game and make helpful suggestions.

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Originally posted by delateur

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Originally posted by Aethios
Wow, I'm surprised at the negativity of the responses. I really thought that my reply was totally appropriate to the topic at hand. After all, Shae, I'm not asking them to jump. I'm asking them to put down the crappy marketing materials and put out the server they promised over a month ago. Is that really so bad? I'd understand the hostility if I were simply whining about the date being too far ahead, or even that they hadn't set a date. Yes, in those situations I would be a whiner.

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Allow me to correct your faulty logic:

People respond to whiners who act entitled to something they are NOT entitled to because of that reason alone. You aren't entitled to what you believe yourself to be, and believing this has produced an attitude in you which will evoke hostility. Lacking the awareness to understand that not receiving something when it is promised due to the choices this company has made does not entitle you to any sort of angry outburst, period. Like everything in life, an event entitles you to a response, and that response can be ANYTHING you choose, including actions that paint you more like a grownup and less like a petulant child.

There are certain feelings that arise when one is told something will happen a certain way and it doesn't, and being upset is a natural response, but your disappointment does not entitle you to anything, any more than the reason for it arising. You've already made some poor choices in how you've chosen to voice your disappointment. What you do from there is entirely up to you. You could, for instance, realize you're being an utter prat and correct your behavior, turn over a new leaf, and start to exercise a bit of self-control and patience. You could instead become even more bull-headed, refuse to log into Spellborn at all, and "show them" what it means to disappoint a potential customer. They won't bet getting YOUR money, that'll show them! I'm sure that you can think of dozens more responses running the full spectrum of graciousness to vindictiveness that are yours for the choosing. Just don't go fooling yourself into thinking that acts "against" you entitle you to any sort of specific response. Doing so will close you off to more than just the eager anticipation of trying what appears to be an amazing game.

To instruct by means of example, if you're entitled to make angry outbursts over situations like this, then we are entitled to tear you a new one because you're ungrateful, impatient, and demanding. Of course, I don't feel entitled to do this, rather I feel compelled to do so, since, despite your ability to form words into coherent sentences, your thought processes seem largely devoid of logic.

I hope my words don't strike you as insulting, as I did not intend this as an insult. I do sincerely hope you can find it in your heart to forgive them the delay and enter Spellborn with an open mind and an eagerness to test the game and make helpful suggestions.

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Originally posted by kable

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Wow, nicely said. Something like this response should be stickied on the top of every game forum on this site. To many complainers and bashers in the online gaming comunity.

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Originally posted by delateur

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Originally posted by Aethios
Wow, I'm surprised at the negativity of the responses. I really thought that my reply was totally appropriate to the topic at hand. After all, Shae, I'm not asking them to jump. I'm asking them to put down the crappy marketing materials and put out the server they promised over a month ago. Is that really so bad? I'd understand the hostility if I were simply whining about the date being too far ahead, or even that they hadn't set a date. Yes, in those situations I would be a whiner.

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Allow me to correct your faulty logic:

People respond to whiners who act entitled to something they are NOT entitled to because of that reason alone. You aren't entitled to what you believe yourself to be, and believing this has produced an attitude in you which will evoke hostility. Lacking the awareness to understand that not receiving something when it is promised due to the choices this company has made does not entitle you to any sort of angry outburst, period. Like everything in life, an event entitles you to a response, and that response can be ANYTHING you choose, including actions that paint you more like a grownup and less like a petulant child.

There are certain feelings that arise when one is told something will happen a certain way and it doesn't, and being upset is a natural response, but your disappointment does not entitle you to anything, any more than the reason for it arising. You've already made some poor choices in how you've chosen to voice your disappointment. What you do from there is entirely up to you. You could, for instance, realize you're being an utter prat and correct your behavior, turn over a new leaf, and start to exercise a bit of self-control and patience. You could instead become even more bull-headed, refuse to log into Spellborn at all, and "show them" what it means to disappoint a potential customer. They won't be getting YOUR money, that'll show them! I'm sure that you can think of dozens more responses running the full spectrum of graciousness to vindictiveness that are yours for the choosing. Just don't go fooling yourself into thinking that acts "against" you entitle you to any sort of specific response. Doing so will close you off to more than just the eager anticipation of trying what appears to be an amazing game.

To instruct by means of example, if you're entitled to make angry outbursts over situations like this, then we are entitled to tear you a new one because you're ungrateful, impatient, and demanding. Of course, I don't feel entitled to do this, rather I feel compelled to do so, since, despite your ability to form words into coherent sentences, your thought processes seem largely devoid of logic.

I hope my words don't strike you as insulting, as I did not intend this as an insult. I do sincerely hope you can find it in your heart to forgive them the delay and enter Spellborn with an open mind and an eagerness to test the game and make helpful suggestions.

Edit: Corrected a misspelling.

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I'd like to correct YOU, sir, on a few minsunderstandings on your part.

First off, I don't feel entitled anything due to my disappointment, as you have so plainly and clearly assumed, but instead I am entitled to be in the beta because (and this is the important part) they have promised me I will be in the beta.

So you're annoyed that I'm annoyed that I'm not in beta, blah blah blah. More namecalling, and that's fine. You have your methods, and I have mine. To be honest, I probably wouldn't have subscribed or purchased this game anyways, so it's really not that big of a deal.

My real irritation stems from the fact that this company has repeatedly promised that certain things will happen by a certain date, and repeatedly failed to meet their own deadlines, even for the simplest things. Even having a good excuse would be reasonable, but "we didn't invite you yet because we felt like marketing instead" is NOT a good excuse.

Having said that, I'll bring focus back to my main point, which is that the aforementioned grievances over which I am supposedly whining are not against myself (and if they were, I would simply leave and not worry about it) but against this company itself. This game looks to be promising, but many people will never know because this company is selling itself short. Stop screwing around, guys, and do what you said you'd do 2 months ago.

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Originally posted by delateur

I hope my words don't strike you as insulting, as I did not intend this as an insult.

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Originally posted by Archaos

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Originally posted by delateur

I hope my words don't strike you as insulting, as I did not intend this as an insult.

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I don't believe that. You could've responded in a much less condescending manner. "Despite your ability to form words into coherent sentences your thought processes seem largely devoide of logic." smacks of unnecessary smarm to me. Your response reads like a flame until the end when you declare that you're not trying to be insulting. The OP has the right to complain that they messed up. Heck, he has the right to complain about whatever he wants. I'm sure that to some people, TCOS is losing credibility. I think the only reason most people in this thread started vehemently attacking the OP and people that agree with them is because they're jealous they didn't get the beta key. Which is ironically just as childish. "That guy got something that I want so he doesn't have the right to complain about not actually receiving it!" If you won the lottery and then never received it, I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't also complain. ALL the OP was saying is that he'd like to be informed of what's going on with the key he won. Oh god, what a crybaby.

EDIT: Jwshaw88,