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havocthefirs  7/23/06 11:24:24 AM

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No matter where you go, there you are.

If you cant loot everything from a fallen foe why bother with pvp at all?

Before anyone says "losing your gear is game breaking" lets dispell that myth.

If your gear is crafted it will be relatively cheap and easy to replace.

If as in wow (the worst game ive ever played in mho) the gear is epic, well all the gear is epic so again it doesnt really matter.

Let me clarify on the looting. If a guild declares war on another guild and that guild accepts the state of war then they can loot each other. If you wish to participate in that kind of pvp then you can join a war guild. So unless the actual sight of seeing this is too much to bear and is somehow game breaking I dont see a problem.

 For the people who say there is nothing to loot than why is there like a 200 item inventory?

 
JelloB2000  7/23/06 12:34:16 PM

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Originally posted by havocthefirs
If you cant loot everything from a fallen foe why bother with pvp at all?
Before anyone says "losing your gear is game breaking" lets dispell that myth.
If your gear is crafted it will be relatively and cheap to replace.
If as in wow (the worst game ive ever played in mho) the gear is epic, well all the gear is epic so again it doesnt really matter.


So you made the exact same topic in the WAR forum also, I wont answer because once you read about this game you will realise your topic makes no sense on this board.
I guess your next posts/topics will be how "carebear" this game is & that there is not enough "hardcore games" out there...

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klyngster  7/27/06 3:52:23 PM

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Originally posted by JelloB2000

So you made the exact same topic in the WAR forum also, I wont answer because once you read about this game you will realise your topic makes no sense on this board.
I guess your next posts/topics will be how "carebear" this game is & that there is not enough "hardcore games" out there...


Dude, you need to chill out and stop harassing anyone who posts a negative comment about the game.

 
JelloB2000  7/27/06 4:49:01 PM

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Originally posted by klyngster

Originally posted by JelloB2000
So you made the exact same topic in the WAR forum also, I wont answer because once you read about this game you will realise your topic makes no sense on this board. I guess your next posts/topics will be how "carebear" this game is & that there is not enough "hardcore games" out there...


Dude, you need to chill out and stop harassing anyone who posts a negative comment about the game.



Well "dude", there is now an option to find all posts by one user & this particular user has ONLY posted on how anything but full pvp is carebear. Also I dont see any moderator deleting my message which means there is nothing wrong with it.
The topic question doesnt make any sense, its nonsense, can you tell me why since you have also read about this game?

(Where is the negative comment on the game in this thread?)

Also when someone sends pm:s to you on a IRC & you dont like it use the block/ignore feature in the IRC client (is this the reason why you read every message as "out to get you?).
I still see no post or evidance of what you are calling "harassment" on these boards or official. Chats are just that; chats where you can listen to people or ignore them.

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havocthefirs  7/27/06 5:21:53 PM

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I gotta reply to you because you are just way too uptight, First of all I didnt think the first post took because it didnt pop up right away. Second, go play virtually 100% of the baby crap thats out there now. Say what you will but I feel no excitement as a PVPer without the thrill that i could lose my stuff. There is NOTHING to lose or gain. So just chill you've got your pick of every game out there, I'm just looking for a game to replace UO in its heyday.
 
Cynthe  7/28/06 12:55:25 AM

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Originally posted by havocthefirs
I gotta reply to you because you are just way too uptight, First of all I didnt think the first post took because it didnt pop up right away. Second, go play virtually 100% of the baby crap thats out there now. Say what you will but I feel no excitement as a PVPer without the thrill that i could lose my stuff. There is NOTHING to lose or gain. So just chill you've got your pick of every game out there, I'm just looking for a game to replace UO in its heyday.
YOU also have YOUR pick of any game out there, why go to a game's forum that you already know won't have the features you are looking for?

This game is about lore, challenge and maximum fun, not about looting. If looting is your bag then I'm not sure  you'd ever be happy with Spellborn. So why did you make this thread? To start a flame? To troll? To try to change a game that's already way cool to begin with? Maybe you just haven't read enough about this game to make an informed opinion, so please go to the official site and get into that info and lore ^^

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outfctrl  7/28/06 8:01:30 AM

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I watch my kids play WoW and they love PvP there.  In WoW you lose nothing, zero, zilch, nada and they have a ball.  Its the thrill of beating another player your own level, using the right moves and spells at the right time.

One mistake and you are toast.  Being able to loot the other person doesnt make PvP more rewarding.  It is knowing you are better then the next guy.

Gonna try this game out.

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Hydraman  7/28/06 9:42:25 AM

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Originally posted by havocthefirs
I gotta reply to you because you are just way too uptight, First of all I didnt think the first post took because it didnt pop up right away. Second, go play virtually 100% of the baby crap thats out there now. Say what you will but I feel no excitement as a PVPer without the thrill that i could lose my stuff. There is NOTHING to lose or gain. So just chill you've got your pick of every game out there, I'm just looking for a game to replace UO in its heyday.

Why is any RPG that is not 'Hardcore' considered "baby crap" ?  I'm an adult, I work a full time job, I have other commitments and activities that I have to take care of.  I also like to play games.  Now tell me why it is more grown up to have the "thrill that I could lose my stuff?"  I worked  hard for my stuff in the limited time I have to play, I'd rather not lose it, just like I'd rather not get PK'd unless I set a flag or go into a contested area where I know the rules dictate that.

If anything I think that 'hardcore' pvp is designed for less mature folks who don't have a job and can spend time regaining thier items and stuff while the real adults are off working.  Besides, I get a thrill from CS and there is no real impact on me if I die, so maybe you should try that out if you need a thrill?

 
apocalance  7/28/06 5:52:03 PM

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Originally posted by outfctrl
I watch my kids play WoW and they love PvP there. In WoW you lose nothing, zero, zilch, nada and they have a ball. Its the thrill of beating another player your own level, using the right moves and spells at the right time.
One mistake and you are toast. Being able to loot the other person doesnt make PvP more rewarding. It is knowing you are better then the next guy.
Gonna try this game out.

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Exyre  7/28/06 11:22:02 PM

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Erm the game, if I've read correctly, isn't going to have equipment... skills yes... equipment no... want to loot skills?
 
Randd  7/29/06 12:19:27 AM

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Originally posted by Exyre
Erm the game, if I've read correctly, isn't going to have equipment... skills yes... equipment no... want to loot skills?

Exactly, the loot in this game is far different from most others. Weapons and armor are eye candy, and i believe there will be a bank so even if full loot was implemented most people wouldnt be carrying all that much.
 
havocthefirs  7/29/06 7:50:05 AM

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I've played WOW for about 4 months because thats all I could stomach. The average 1 on 1 lasts about 12 seconds the average battle 40 on 40 lasts about 45 seconds, trust me if you ever played UO in its heyday you would know that aint PVP. Also there was 0 excitement factor, the real joke of it all was it was cheaper to die and get your armor repaired than it was to drink a heal pot. NO FUN.
 
havocthefirs  7/29/06 7:54:40 AM

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No matter where you go, there you are.

Me too, I work long hours and wouldnt a little excitement be nice after a crappy day at work. What the heck wouldnt it be nice to just wack someone out and get that gear, a tad more exciting than killing 10 rat faced wookies.
 
Cynthe  7/29/06 11:58:07 AM

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Huh did you just agree with yourself? 

The PvP in Spellborn I don't think will be like WoW, it had FPS controls and is skill based, you will have to know your skilldeck very well and understand how to organise it in order to create the best possible combinations, according to you or your style of play.

This shouldn't be mindless boom you're dead PvP, but with strategy and challenge. Which is why you don't need looting in the first place. The arena can also have spectators, so anyone can come to watch duels, group vs group or guilds taking it out. To me that sounds exciting and it might bring some sort of excitement into arena fights which I know a lot PvPers hate.. There's also lots of debate on whether the game will have some open PvP areas i the wild, it's been hinted at, hopefully for you challenge seekers there will be.

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Dominuz  7/31/06 10:08:22 AM