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spafon  10/25/06 12:06:26 AM

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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

I have repeatedly tried to expose the clique of 20-30 players and a few GMs who want to control all aspects of this game. I have been repeatedly attacked for it and expect as much. But as a paying customer I expect no more or no less for the money I pay than the next guy. But this has proven to not be the case.

First there is the matter of my account being tagged telling the GMs to not answer my calls. I was never told of this until a GM let it slip. So why would a supposedly legitamate game company secretly tag players to be denied game support? Was it because I made too many GM calls in the first week of the telling due to complete lack of documentation? I have played dozens of online games and this is the first and only one that doesn't even have a beginners guide.

Then there's the lie told by the elitist players that part of the fun of the game is trying to figure everything out. Well while the new players are trying to figure everything out the elitists are out passing all the tests for cheap, snagging all the best spots and trying to get control of all the ore veins using the knowledge they have from the previous telling.

Also whenever there has been a discussion on the ENN channel not once has a single one of my comments been posted. Is this more discrimination by eGenisis because I question their practices?

Lastly there is the matter of the monkeys. No item flaunts this eGenisis sponsored Elitism more than these items. At no time should an item be introduced into a game that:
A) Is not related to game play in any way.
B) cannot be obtained from within the game by any player.

All attempts to get answers about my GM ban and other question of eGenisis practices through email have been unanswered.

This unfair treatment of myself, and I am sure others too, and the eliteist agenda promoted and encouraged by eGenisis must stop.

It is the duty of a game provider to treat their paying customers fairly and evenly and not secretly penalize certain customers for undisclosed reasons.

No game provider should ever encourage the game be control by a certain group of players in cahoots with staff members.

When a person subscribes to an online game the provider implies that it is a fair game and every paying customer has an equal chance to advance.

Any policy practiced by the provider contrary to that constitutes misrepresentation of the product.

Secret discriminatory practices may be construed as defrauding the paying customers.
 
Indeed  10/27/06 11:16:41 AM

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To my mind you expect too much. Possibly the only reason for the GMs behaviour really just is your making too many GM calls in the first week. Like give them ten answers and then tag them. The rest is standard stuff.

Once I was interested in dark and light and applied to settlers of ganareth. There were only thousand accounts to give so they were out after some minutes. No problem with that. But when the game went live I discovered that the lucky pioneers not only got free items like dragons but also started with level 30 chars right off! So you can be happy that the early joiners of tale in the desert still have to use their knowledge of earlier rounds and don't get the win button or have the presubscribers boots of fast walking. Fairness is the last thing to expect of these kind of games. In real life you have the same problems, if you make lots of money and you are big in the market everyone will be happy to lend you money but if you don't have money and need it then try to burrow some.

 
Dentata  10/30/06 7:47:31 PM

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Spafon, this game has a small community and is developed on the fly.  Some amount of "collusion" between the devs and the most active players may be necessary to make it work correctly.

If you don't like it, you might consider playing a different game instead of making such a pest of yourself.  It doesn't sound like you are having fun, and it doesn't sound like you are making things more enjoyable for others.  It does sound like you are whining here to grind an axe.

I am looking at the game now and will probably subscribe.  It appears to be the kind of game that suits my play style.  The game isn't about who is at the "top" level anyway; there is a lot you can do without having everything that everyone else has.  Your comments make me certain that you don't belong there, so find a game that treats you right, instead of paying to be abused.


 
spafon  11/12/06 5:12:40 PM

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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

If they wish to run a private game then let them. But Gms and their cronies have seized control of the whole game and any attempt by PAYING CUSTOMERS to gain control of anything is met with personal attacks and insults both by players and the GMs. This game is completely controlled by a Clique of 20 or so players, including GMs, that are small, petty and vindictive and bash anyone who attempts to rise above a certain level of influence in the game. Anyone who thinks this is a nice, happy, friendly game where players co-operate to work on public projects is sadly mistaken. This game has the worst sort of PVP. It involved rumors, lies, back-stabbing, bashing, ass-kissing, betrayal and all the most vile of human traits used to gain social stature. If you don't want to get trapped in a quagmire of trailer park mind set I suggest you avoid this game.

Check out this thread to see examples of the GMs lying in the forums and the abuse they pile on anyone who tries to expose what I call The Clique that controls every aspect of the game.


http://atitd.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10806&page=1&pp=10

 
bearious  11/21/06 10:44:00 AM

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You have got to be kidding me...  you really think that there is a group of men in black running around with decoder rings and secrect hand shankes that are running the game?  I have played ATITD.  I started the game with a few friends and we had a great time, and ya know what?  We never ran into any problemes with any of the staff or other players.  Sure there are some people who know the game better than us.  Sure, there is a learning curve, but that never stop us from having a good time.  If we needed something we would do what we needed to get it.  Trade, bust hump to find/make it or what ever was needed.  The few times I made a gm call, I was helped by some very nice people.  The people I delt with, where always polite and helpfull.  I never thought for a moment that any of them was in cahoots, trying to corner the market with anything.

 

I hate to see a good game like this get bashed by anyone.

 

You know its ok to take off the aluminum hat bud.

 

 

 
Dentata  11/28/06 7:30:07 PM

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A month has gone by since I wrote my first reply to this topic.  I have since subscribed to this very enjoyable game and am totally mystified by the original poster.  I have seen nothing but cooperation by the entire community.  Any attempt to monopolize anything in the game is met with derision.  This is the most cooperative game I have ever played.  There is very little incentive to compete with someone else, it doesn't get you anywhere.

I believe your intent is to slander the game, because of perceived slights that you have suffered.  The game would certainly be better off with you away from it.  You would almost certainly also be better off somewhere else.  This game offers a stark alternative to the other games on the market, and it would be a shame if people did not give it a chance because of one petulant, disgruntled user.

The game isn't for everyone.  No combat, no NPCs, somewhat of a sandbox approach that has been modified in this telling by the introduction of a controversial levelling system that makes it more accessible to new people.  I am having a blast.  I spent months looking for a new game to get lost in, and this has fit me better than games that are far more popular.  THere is an extensive free trial that gives a great intro to the game, and it is worth your time to find out if the game is for you.

 

 
Chidori30  12/10/06 4:01:35 PM

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The lesson of a memory I hold dear...in my heart"To find peace, I must look within myself"

Rofl I forgot about this guy and then while surfing I see this thread title.  Anyhow no one takes this guy seriously and I think he has stopped playing.  He really should have read the box label before signing up though...

~Q~

neuronomad  1/24/07 11:30:50 AM

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I don't play ATITD3.  I haven't ever played it.  And know very little about it.  But from your posting I decided to check out their forums.   I am placing my bets that your forum name on there is Richter.   Because from what I can tell there is someone by that name that has made a lot of these "oh my people higher than me have it made" postings.   This is in every game.  In every game someone at a higher level than you are will more likely have more connections and have abilities to utilize.   So I fall to see what the big deal is here.

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blacknebula  1/25/07 9:02:32 AM

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Originally posted by spafon

If they wish to run a private game then let them. But Gms and their cronies have seized control of the whole game and any attempt by PAYING CUSTOMERS to gain control of anything is met with personal attacks and insults both by players and the GMs. This game is completely controlled by a Clique of 20 or so players, including GMs, that are small, petty and vindictive and bash anyone who attempts to rise above a certain level of influence in the game. Anyone who thinks this is a nice, happy, friendly game where players co-operate to work on public projects is sadly mistaken. This game has the worst sort of PVP. It involved rumors, lies, back-stabbing, bashing, ass-kissing, betrayal and all the most vile of human traits used to gain social stature. If you don't want to get trapped in a quagmire of trailer park mind set I suggest you avoid this game.

Check out this thread to see examples of the GMs lying in the forums and the abuse they pile on anyone who tries to expose what I call The Clique that controls every aspect of the game.


http://atitd.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10806&page=1&pp=10


dude........ how stupid can u be? even if that IS happening that way is just like in real life and if u whine and cry because of that then i feel really sorry for you.
RaptorBlaze  8/25/07 10:50:58 PM

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Richter (Spafon) quit the game awhile ago, i think he might have been banned by a dp but not sure. YES there are  a group  of 20 or more players who have craploads of  connections but they aren 't "elite". I was only a mediocre player and was good friends with about half of them, the worst thing anyone did was pameow attempting to monopolize the clay pits for Raeli tiles and we did a calculated clinker bombardment of her land (causing massive pollution) as revenge. btw the reason we waited so long to ban you richter was whenever someone saw your rants we just laughed as we read them since noone takes you seriously, and noon should take sore losers like you seriously. I left the game due to a lack of funds but i never had problems with it.

p.s. the Dev gentry is an asshat though

-Setheri (my ATITD3 name)

 

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