Originally posted by pandrax

 

Originally posted by Lochdar

Here's a leak for you:

 

I played both, and WAR beta is in a better shape than AoC (and that means it is better now than the AoC release client).

 

Leak enough for you?

 

Sorry, that is a FLAT OUT LIE. the Warhammer closed beta was in such bad shape 3-4 months ago that many of the closed beta testers left and uninstalled the client because of mythics unability to listen to the testers and  overall bad support. I was one of the many who left in disgust. Why exactly do you think they extended their release.. again?

What does 3-4 months ago have to do with now? and you admit you havent played the game for 3-4 months and yet still claim to know the current state of the game. How can you know that is so if you havent played it in so long?

Sounds like the only one spinning lies is you pandrax.

AoC will do very well.....for the people with the right hardware configuration. That is really what will prevent it from being a commercial success.

What's going to create issues for MMO fans who can run it....its a bit linear up front, world doesn't feel very open up front. I don't know if that changes later on but it feels a lot like a single player RPG in the beginning. IMHO.

Originally posted by Grunties

What does 3-4 months ago have to do with now? and you admit you havent played the game for 3-4 months and yet still claim to know the current state of the game. How can you know that is so if you havent played it in so long?

Sounds like the only one spinning lies is you pandrax.

You dont need to know the current state of affairs to have a soured opinion about something. If this person left with a bad impression of Mythic, then they arent as likely to go back and try it out again.

First impressions are everything.

Originally posted by kitsunegirl

 

 

You dont need to know the current state of affairs to have a soured opinion about something. If this person left with a bad impression of Mythic, then they arent as likely to go back and try it out again.

First impressions are everything.

His comment implied he knew the current state of the WAR client and how it compared to the current state of the AoC client, despite his own admittence he hasn't played the WAR beta for around 4 months. It doesn't matter what his first impression was, or whether or not it was soured. Its irrelevent. Not just because his impressions are opinion (4 months old opinion), but also because when you say words like FLAT OUT LIE that implies something factual. Which is impossible because he doesn't have the facts, so how could it be a flat out lie?

Hell, I got in beta 4 months ago and I don't even know what the hell incident he is referring to with bad state of the client, I actually think he just made the whole thing up because he likes AoC.

Originally posted by Grunties

 

Originally posted by kitsunegirl

 

 

You dont need to know the current state of affairs to have a soured opinion about something. If this person left with a bad impression of Mythic, then they arent as likely to go back and try it out again.

First impressions are everything.

 

His comment implied he knew the current state of the WAR client and how it compared to the current state of the AoC client, despite his own admittence he hasn't played the WAR beta for around 4 months. It doesn't matter what his first impression was, or whether or not it was soured. Its irrelevent. Not just because his impressions are opinion (4 months old opinion), but also because when you say words like FLAT OUT LIE that implies something factual. Which is impossible because he doesn't have the facts, so how could it be a flat out lie?

Hell, I got in beta 4 months ago and I don't even know what the hell incident he is referring to with bad state of the client, I actually think he just made the whole thing up because he likes AoC.

 You said Warhammer beta will be better then Age of conan Release, I said that was a lie and I told you why it was. Follow me so far? good. Now When I left warhammer beta they took down the beta, as in no one was playing it. They were getting ready for the "next" stage of beta. I never said I hated warhammer or I would never play it, but I did say their beta was in shambles and they were running out of time, just like all mmorpgs end up doing at some point in development.

I really hope you understand that, if not I will not be able to help you. Next time you try to proclaim something, especially something like warhammer beta>aoc release, you really need to get your facts straight. Maybe the random children here will buy into your garbage but anyone who actually follows warhammer and age of conan have an idea of how both are really doing.

As for warhammer beta NOW, I Couldn't tell but I do know they are having a lot of issues as any game in beta will have. Warhammer beta was and is no different than age of conan or any other beta.

Originally posted by Torak

AoC will do very well.....for the people with the right hardware configuration. That is really what will prevent it from being a commercial success.

What's going to create issues for MMO fans who can run it....its a bit linear up front, world doesn't feel very open up front. I don't know if that changes later on but it feels a lot like a single player RPG in the beginning. IMHO.

 

I agree with the whole issue with hardware. It is a very difficult task, and the average person who plays mmo's has no idea how to configure or even attempt to tweak their system to get it to work with age of conan. So what were left with is everyone complaining about how age of conan is so horrible, but the fact is a lot of the issues people are having is solvable through small tweaks and driver updates.

 As for the lack of a open world and single player feeling, I agree also. It feels very much like a singleplayer experience in the 1-20 range. From what funcom has said though, they wanted to go for a more linear and simplistic route for the "tutorial" which is essentially the 1-20 island. I can't really say much because of the NDA, but  the world does indeed open up a lot once you get out of the 1-20 tutorial, and it definitely has a mmo feel to it.

Originally posted by pandrax

 

If you are unable to comprehend what I said, I understand. I'll attempt to make it a little easier for you.

 

 

 You said Warhammer beta will be better then Age of conan Release, I said that was a lie and I told you why it was. Follow me so far? good. Now When I left warhammer beta they took down the beta, as in no one was playing it. They were getting ready for the "next" stage of beta. I never said I hated warhammer or I would never play it, but I did say their beta was in shambles and they were running out of time, just like all mmorpgs end up doing at some point in development.

I really hope you understand that, if not I will not be able to help you. Next time you try to proclaim something, especially something like warhammer beta>aoc release, you really need to get your facts straight. Maybe the random children here will buy into your garbage but anyone who actually follows warhammer and age of conan have an idea of how both are really doing.

As for warhammer beta NOW, I Couldn't tell but I do know they are having a lot of issues as any game in beta will have. Warhammer beta was and is no different than age of conan or any other beta.

You've got me mixed up with the OP, mate. You attributed everything he said to me. I only called you out on your BS reply to him, in which you claimed a flat out lie in the face of 4 month old absense from the beta. It seems in addition to failing in your duty as a beta tester, you've also failed reading comprehension. Third times the charm?

Originally posted by pandrax

 

Originally posted by Grunties

 

Originally posted by kitsunegirl

 

 

You dont need to know the current state of affairs to have a soured opinion about something. If this person left with a bad impression of Mythic, then they arent as likely to go back and try it out again.

First impressions are everything.

 

His comment implied he knew the current state of the WAR client and how it compared to the current state of the AoC client, despite his own admittence he hasn't played the WAR beta for around 4 months. It doesn't matter what his first impression was, or whether or not it was soured. Its irrelevent. Not just because his impressions are opinion (4 months old opinion), but also because when you say words like FLAT OUT LIE that implies something factual. Which is impossible because he doesn't have the facts, so how could it be a flat out lie?

Hell, I got in beta 4 months ago and I don't even know what the hell incident he is referring to with bad state of the client, I actually think he just made the whole thing up because he likes AoC.

If you are unable to comprehend what I said, I understand. I'll attempt to make it a little easier for you.

 

 

 You said Warhammer beta will be better then Age of conan Release, I said that was a lie and I told you why it was. Follow me so far? good. Now When I left warhammer beta they took down the beta, as in no one was playing it. They were getting ready for the "next" stage of beta. I never said I hated warhammer or I would never play it, but I did say their beta was in shambles and they were running out of time, just like all mmorpgs end up doing at some point in development.

I really hope you understand that, if not I will not be able to help you. Next time you try to proclaim something, especially something like warhammer beta>aoc release, you really need to get your facts straight. Maybe the random children here will buy into your garbage but anyone who actually follows warhammer and age of conan have an idea of how both are really doing.

As for warhammer beta NOW, I Couldn't tell but I do know they are having a lot of issues as any game in beta will have. Warhammer beta was and is no different than age of conan or any other beta.

In beta and yes i can assure you it s in better shape then AOC is now. Take it for what it s worth but it is.

hahaha this post is so dumb the OP has got to be no older than 12. troll. whats with the whole AOC vs. WAR thing going on i dont get it. Both games are gonna be successful, other than WoW what big mmos out there do they have to compete with .....not much. So its a good chance both these games are gonna be successful. I for one prefer AOC over WAR because its a change of pace after how long i played WoW.  im sure war wil be pretty cool too it just seems to similar to a wow setting

Originally posted by Grunties

Originally posted by pandrax

 

If you are unable to comprehend what I said, I understand. I'll attempt to make it a little easier for you.

 

 

 You said Warhammer beta will be better then Age of conan Release, I said that was a lie and I told you why it was. Follow me so far? good. Now When I left warhammer beta they took down the beta, as in no one was playing it. They were getting ready for the "next" stage of beta. I never said I hated warhammer or I would never play it, but I did say their beta was in shambles and they were running out of time, just like all mmorpgs end up doing at some point in development.

I really hope you understand that, if not I will not be able to help you. Next time you try to proclaim something, especially something like warhammer beta>aoc release, you really need to get your facts straight. Maybe the random children here will buy into your garbage but anyone who actually follows warhammer and age of conan have an idea of how both are really doing.

As for warhammer beta NOW, I Couldn't tell but I do know they are having a lot of issues as any game in beta will have. Warhammer beta was and is no different than age of conan or any other beta.

You've got me mixed up with the OP, mate. You attributed everything he said to me. I only called you out on your BS reply to him, in which you claimed a flat out lie in the face of 4 month old absense from the beta. It seems in addition to failing in your duty as a beta tester, you've also failed reading comprehension. Third times the charm?

Sorry, but I wasn't posting to the op, If I was I would of qouted him. as for my failing as a beta tester? No, I emailed mythic, told them of my situation and asked to be removed from the beta. I'm sure someone else who was actually willing to take their abuse  gobbled up my spot. It's hard testing for a company who doesn't like help from their own testers, but most mmo companies are like that, so it's hard to really complain about it I guess.

 And for the record, I don't care if you believe me or not, I just don't like when someone spews out how horrible something is when in fact it's sometimes just the opposite.  I also have a tendancy to come off rather coldhearted and rude, that's just how I type I guess.

Originally posted by pandrax

 

 

Sorry, but I wasn't posting to the op, If I was I would of qouted him. as for my failing as a beta tester? No, I emailed mythic, told them of my situation and asked to be removed from the beta. I'm sure someone else who was actually willing to take their abuse  gobbled up my spot. It's hard testing for a company who doesn't like help from their own testers, but most mmo companies are like that, so it's hard to really complain about it I guess.

You said I posted something I clearly didn't, I really don't know what more I can say on that. As for the rest, I'm sorry you felt you werent being listened to, I'm sure you are very important and your opinion is worth more than the other testers, and they are obligated to always follow your advice. But seriously, if you bowed out and let them know you were uninstalling, I give you credit for that. Though I can't imagine what could have happened to make you feel you were being abused.

 And for the record, I don't care if you believe me or not, I just don't like when someone spews out how horrible something is when in fact it's sometimes just the opposite.  I also have a tendancy to come off rather coldhearted and rude, that's just how I type I guess.

You don't have to care. Just like I don't have to care. I've been lucky enough to play up-to-date versions of both, so I think I have enough factual data to form my own opinion, which is the one I do care about.

But this isn't about me. :)