I love the human starter area but sadly, Ill never be a tank for them or even the entire Order side for that matter. It seems the only true tank class for the Order side is the Dwarf Iron breaker (and there not even that good). Whenever I go head to head with a Dwarvian Ironbreaker with my Chosen of the same level or even one or two lvls higher, I always win. Never lost against another tank.

The other "tank" class for Order is the sword dancers. That's not a tank. I take them out just as fast as I take out Bright Wizards.

I think the Order side needs another tank. Just my opinion tho

 There is a human tank...the Chaos Chosen!!!  ORDER BLOWS GOATS!

Originally posted by Enigma

I love the human starter area but sadly, Ill never be a tank for them or even the entire Order side for that matter. It seems the only true tank class for the Order side is the Dwarf Iron breaker (and there not even that good). Whenever I go head to head with a Dwarvian Ironbreaker with my Chosen of the same level or even one or two lvls higher, I always win. Never lost against another tank.

The other "tank" class for Order is the sword dancers. That's not a tank. I take them out just as fast as I take out Bright Wizards.

I think the Order side needs another tank. Just my opinion tho

Funny, when I play my Ironbreaker toe to toe with any class of equal level, I win.  You must just be playing against crappy players.  For that matter, when I play an ironbreaker, I must always be playing against crappy players because I always win.  Just because you win against a certain class all the time it is not a testament of the class not being good, so much as the person behind the toon not being so great. 

My biggest complaint about lack of tanks is the dark elf PQs are a little rough when no one can take a hit.

Its not the class its how you play it. Perhaps you have yet to figure out how to tank on the order side properly.  I dont think they would make one realms tanks superior to anothers.

Originally posted by SundersGhost

Originally posted by Enigma

I love the human starter area but sadly, Ill never be a tank for them or even the entire Order side for that matter. It seems the only true tank class for the Order side is the Dwarf Iron breaker (and there not even that good). Whenever I go head to head with a Dwarvian Ironbreaker with my Chosen of the same level or even one or two lvls higher, I always win. Never lost against another tank.

The other "tank" class for Order is the sword dancers. That's not a tank. I take them out just as fast as I take out Bright Wizards.

I think the Order side needs another tank. Just my opinion tho

 

Funny, when I play my Ironbreaker toe to toe with any class of equal level, I win.  You must just be playing against crappy players.  For that matter, when I play an ironbreaker, I must always be playing against crappy players because I always win.  Just because you win against a certain class all the time it is not a testament of the class not being good, so much as the person behind the toon not being so great. 

this game is not balanced around 1v1's.

This is something they need to address early after release. I still fail to understand why they couldn't release with a class for every archetype for each race. It's common practice to tweak things once the game gets up and running, so I don't get the big deal. Mark said they weren't "fun enough" or that beta testers didn't like them. In my opinion, the current classes are okay, but none of them are real barnburners. I was even getting equipment drops for the Blackguard during the Preview Weekend. To me, the missing classes make the game feel even more unfinished.

The Ironbreaker is more geared for tanking several people than a single person, so yes, in a 1v1 he is not as powerful, but in a 2+v1, you'll find him to be much more effective than the Chosen.

Originally posted by Enigma

I love the human starter area but sadly, Ill never be a tank for them or even the entire Order side for that matter. It seems the only true tank class for the Order side is the Dwarf Iron breaker (and there not even that good). Whenever I go head to head with a Dwarvian Ironbreaker with my Chosen of the same level or even one or two lvls higher, I always win. Never lost against another tank.

The other "tank" class for Order is the sword dancers. That's not a tank. I take them out just as fast as I take out Bright Wizards.

I think the Order side needs another tank. Just my opinion tho

Maybe you are just a complete badass? 

Originally posted by Shard101

Originally posted by SundersGhost

Originally posted by Enigma

I love the human starter area but sadly, Ill never be a tank for them or even the entire Order side for that matter. It seems the only true tank class for the Order side is the Dwarf Iron breaker (and there not even that good). Whenever I go head to head with a Dwarvian Ironbreaker with my Chosen of the same level or even one or two lvls higher, I always win. Never lost against another tank.

The other "tank" class for Order is the sword dancers. That's not a tank. I take them out just as fast as I take out Bright Wizards.

I think the Order side needs another tank. Just my opinion tho

 

Funny, when I play my Ironbreaker toe to toe with any class of equal level, I win.  You must just be playing against crappy players.  For that matter, when I play an ironbreaker, I must always be playing against crappy players because I always win.  Just because you win against a certain class all the time it is not a testament of the class not being good, so much as the person behind the toon not being so great. 

 

this game is not balanced around 1v1's.

Totally agree and understand that.  That is a concept I have stressed to people with little effect.  Heh  People will still find a way to complain about imbalance, and things being overpowered/underpowered.

Originally posted by SundersGhost

Originally posted by Shard101

Originally posted by SundersGhost

Originally posted by Enigma

I love the human starter area but sadly, Ill never be a tank for them or even the entire Order side for that matter. It seems the only true tank class for the Order side is the Dwarf Iron breaker (and there not even that good). Whenever I go head to head with a Dwarvian Ironbreaker with my Chosen of the same level or even one or two lvls higher, I always win. Never lost against another tank.

The other "tank" class for Order is the sword dancers. That's not a tank. I take them out just as fast as I take out Bright Wizards.

I think the Order side needs another tank. Just my opinion tho

 

Funny, when I play my Ironbreaker toe to toe with any class of equal level, I win.  You must just be playing against crappy players.  For that matter, when I play an ironbreaker, I must always be playing against crappy players because I always win.  Just because you win against a certain class all the time it is not a testament of the class not being good, so much as the person behind the toon not being so great. 

 

this game is not balanced around 1v1's.

 

Totally agree and understand that.  That is a concept I have stressed to people with little effect.  Heh  People will still find a way to complain about imbalance, and things being overpowered/underpowered.

 

Well, this argument is always shaky ground because it can be true, and it can also be used as a cop-out.

I had my heart set on playing a Knight of the Burning Sun. Hope they bring them back in the near future.. nothing like a tank with a plumed helmet.

Originally posted by Enigma

I love the human starter area but sadly, Ill never be a tank for them or even the entire Order side for that matter. It seems the only true tank class for the Order side is the Dwarf Iron breaker (and there not even that good). Whenever I go head to head with a Dwarvian Ironbreaker with my Chosen of the same level or even one or two lvls higher, I always win. Never lost against another tank.

The other "tank" class for Order is the sword dancers. That's not a tank. I take them out just as fast as I take out Bright Wizards.

I think the Order side needs another tank. Just my opinion tho

Ya i kinda agree...Humans are also the biggiest race on the order just doesnt make sence for them not to have a tank...