Although some people were not a fan of pking, getting rid of the wilderness affected everything, even skillers. 

Example- Now that tele-block is gone (replaced with bounty finder...pathetic) there is a less demand for people to high alch to get higher mage.  With less of a demand for yew long bows (overpriced at 700ea), what will flkecthers do? What will the people thhat sell bowstrings do?  Not only does this mess up the fletching, but even more the runescarting.  Without a need to get mage up, who will need natures or a large supply of law runes.  Not only does this create a problem of selling the runes, but also the running of nature runes and law runes.  Without being able to give something more of a 3k difference, then this wil slow the leveling of rcers.  When pking is gone, it effects more then just the pkers.

Sure there is bounty hunter, but that should not even be called pking.  It should be called clanning, because there is no player kiling, it is just clans kiling lower lvled people and unsuspecting people by themselves.  All that the clan do is wait by the door, and once you walk in, your pretty much dead.  Pking took some skill, but when ur in a huge clan (like in bounty hunter) it takes no skill at all.

Without pking, the econemy is messed up.

I don't understand... What does the Wilderness and Teleblocking have to do with high alching?

And no, merchanting is not totally dead, although much harder and more risky. If you can anticipate the prices of an item you can make money. The only problem with this method is if you're wrong, you can make a big loss.

I have come to the conclusion that Jagex's formula for all the prices in runescape is based on the Grand Exchange - If there is alot of an item in the exchange, with few buyers, the price goes down. In contrast, if there is more buyers than sellers, the price goes up.

The only problem I can see with this is if somebody buys up all of a certain item, than they can swing the market price o.O

-=- Simiswimm -=-

Teleblock was not the reason people wanted to get high mage. It was Ice Barrage.

And no, the wilderness changes didn't affect the economy. Even if it did, the changes would be unnoticable under all the deflation with the GE.

Not really, most of the big time mages wanted teleblock, since that was an important to have if you were pking with a large group.  Now getting 85 mage is not as necessary, with most pkers gone and a pointless spell called bounty finder.

yea, when they killed pking they killed their crafting system as well. When there was pking in the wilderness there was also a demand for owning multiple rune sets, multiple D'hide sets, purchasing pots for pking, and many runes and arrows as well as food for battle. Since it's removal Player made items such as rune sets, crafted dhide, pots and food have significantly dropped in demand making them near impossible to sell because players only need one set now rather than go through many pking. All of the items that were player crafted and used in Pking have no demand now so there is no reason to make them in the first place.

Woah, talk about bringing back an old thread   And I 100% agree Devil.

Also, you realize that Llamester has been gone for a while?  Mabye we POES scared him off...hehe

Originally posted by mike470

Woah, talk about bringing back an old thread   And I 100% agree Devil.

Also, you realize that Llamester has been gone for a while?  Mabye we POES scared him off...hehe

Yea , since I have been seeing a new wave of POES comming through here I figured they needed to be  kept up to date on what was already discussed =). Yea.. haven't seen him around in a while, but hey when you can't win a losing battle there is no point in fighting it. He is welcome to join POES when he  realizes what he has been fighting for. lol
 

 effects pot makers, fishers, smithers, merchants, crafters, fletches, slayer(ers?), and i guess it effected others but i dont wanna think

*agrees* If you don't miss the old wilderness you must have not been very good at  it. I iss the mass chaos of  mass wilderness clan wars where you could be fighting a clan and then like 2 more clans appear and you have to fight them as well ... Oh those were the days...

Eh, not just PKing, staking and trading... mostly trading. RS has no proper economy now, by that I mean like what it used to be.. merchanting etc, all dead.

I think the hardest areas hit in the economy from the loss of the wilderness are :  smithing rune sets, crafting dhide, making supersets, antipoisons, str pots, mage pots, range pots, sara brews, super restores, cooked sharks, cooked swordfish, d boltz, and crossbows. now there is practically no demand for most of those items other than food because people aren't using them up. People will still buy food for training and such, but not for pvp which was the majority of the demand for those items.

The removal of the wilderness in addition to killing the supply and demand of the game and leaving the crafting system crippled it also killed the need to convienace merchants that could buy items at the exchange and  sell them in deep wilderness at mage bank or on pking worlds to players that did not want to stop fighting to go to the GE.

  I'd have to agree and disagree, demand for pking items have indeed dropped but has crafting ever really been a big moneymaker? Rune sets are'nt really that damaged due to rune sets being the best armor for non-members. (discluding god armors) Food wasn't (as far as I know) damaged either I don't believe, I think it may be exaggerating to say that without pking there is no economy, the economy is alive and well! (although controlled to a point by the Grand Exchange)