Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

 

Originally posted by TdogSkal

 

Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

 

Originally posted by Vortigon

So that time of year has come round again, when all the fanbois get round the campfire and sing songs of the great darkfall and how it will release this year. 

They should really make this an annual holiday or something, or more correctly a religious holiday?  Every time they announce the release of this game (lol) , there seems to be less and less fanbois singing its praises.

 

Maybe in time the children of the fanbois will take up the torch and their children after them and so on.  The darkfall legacy will live on no doubt when all of us are dead and buried and still they will come together each year and claim that, YES!, darkfall is coming out THIS year and the rest of the world is wrong.

So a thousand years from now, when the Earth is a global greenhouse of dust, the last man standing  may lay dying, and holding in his hand  a  scribbled note  with the words, "darkfall is coming....soon!"

 

it's actually more like "quarterly"... or at least twice a year.  Normally Quarterly.

 

There's the first one when they release that yearly vid in like Jan/Feb.
it sparks up again around spring time while the kids are on spring break and don't do anything but surf the net and a new round of fanboi's roll in.
Again during summer.

And finally my favorite:
During the fall, every year, "inside information because our guild has a Dev on it" about Beta starting.  Normally like Novemberish. (a story I've heard the past 2-3 years)

Randomly insert the ongoing war of "DFO VS *insert game releasing*" posts about twice a year being the hot topic.

 

After all these phases, there's a calm portion where the fans go their way to erect new shrines, and the trolls are bored and go their way to play a game.  During which, the fans are off playing whatever new release is on the market so they can sit and think "Darkfall will be sooo much better then this."

Yet both of you take time to come to a game forum that you dont believe will ever be released, that is vaporware?

 

Why?  What are you trying to prove?  What are your goals other then trolling and trying to start a flame war?

Sounds to me like maybe you need to find something to do during your summer break from highschool.

I never said it was vapor, did I?  I happen to be a fan of these Forums, they give endless enjoyment it seems.  I try to remain as neutral as possible, a skeptical fan, if you will.  Not because I want to play the game, but because I like to see gamers get what they'll enjoy.

 

I'm not attempting to start a flame war.  Why are you personally attacking me?  Does that make your argument look better to personally attack me, or my observations as stated in the post?

 

Finally, I'm not on "summer break" and it's been almost a decade since High School.  However, work at the studio doesn't start till 3-4pm, and I'm a morning person.  So I spend my mornings online, playing games, reading news, reading Forums, replying if I so desire, and playing with my pets.

In the evening I spend most my time working, since we normally disband around 3am and people go home.

 

when you reply to a post, attempt to attack the issue you wish to address, not the person.  Many of the DFO fans on this board have watched me both support, and attack, different aspects of the DFO Development cycle.  When I'm wrong, I'll admit it... don't like being wrong, but it's better to have the facts straight then spread mis-information.

That's all I ask, attack the topic, not the person.

Follow your own advice.

Originally posted by TdogSkal 

Well if you did not attack Darkfall fans with your post, I would not have attacked you.   You may not have directly attack any one Darkfall fan but with your post and the post you quoted attack Darkfall fans in general.

 

Follow your own advice.

I did not attack anybody, I merely pointed out the history you can easily reference as proof.

You attacked me, personally. (Against the EULA, by the way... but I'm not worried about it if you're not.)

Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

 

Originally posted by TdogSkal 

Well if you did not attack Darkfall fans with your post, I would not have attacked you.   You may not have directly attack any one Darkfall fan but with your post and the post you quoted attack Darkfall fans in general.

 

Follow your own advice.

oh but see, there's a distinctive dfiference between pointing out a history portrayed through the years, here, on this site, and attacking an individual.

 

I did not attack anybody, I merely pointed out the history you can easily reference as proof.

You attacked me, personally. (Against the EULA, by the way... but I'm not worried about it if you're not.)

 
Well Ghost,  If you would have read my post,,, I started it out with You both...It was not just picking on you,,,, you took it as me picking on just you,,, I was picking on the group of haters/trolls/whatever else you want to call them.

Also before we started this little chat back and forth, I ask some good questions for you haters/trolls/whatever else you want to call yourself.

So lets put this behind us and move back to the topic at hand, shall we.   Please read my post above your first one.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

So here are my questions.

If this game is vaporware and it will never release and it been in development for ever and you think its crap, then why do you post about it?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Why even bother to waste your time?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Why do you have to bash fans of Darkfall?  Why does it matter to you what I wait for?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Why does it matter that I beleive Darkfall is going to be released?  How does that effect you?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Why does it matter that I waste my time on something that you don't?  How does that make you better then me?

Who said anybody was better?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

If Darkfall is vaporware and it never releases, what have I lost while waiting for Darkfall?  Kind in mind I am playing other MMOs while I wait.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Why do you find it important to post about a game that you believe is never coming out?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Why is it important to bash fans of Darkfall?  What did they do to you?

I've had people all over things like my blog or MySpace because of my previous history in the MMO Industry.  So yes, they have previously attacked me personally elsewhere...

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Do they bash the game you are waiting on or playing?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Does Darkfall scare you?  Do you believe that if Darkfall is releases as promised with all the features it will ruin your MMO?

I don't see how/why Darkfall would ruin EverQuest 2 for me... they seem to appeal to very different crowds.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

 

Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

 

Originally posted by TdogSkal

 

Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

 

Originally posted by Vortigon

So that time of year has come round again, when all the fanbois get round the campfire and sing songs of the great darkfall and how it will release this year. 

They should really make this an annual holiday or something, or more correctly a religious holiday?  Every time they announce the release of this game (lol) , there seems to be less and less fanbois singing its praises.

 

Maybe in time the children of the fanbois will take up the torch and their children after them and so on.  The darkfall legacy will live on no doubt when all of us are dead and buried and still they will come together each year and claim that, YES!, darkfall is coming out THIS year and the rest of the world is wrong.

So a thousand years from now, when the Earth is a global greenhouse of dust, the last man standing  may lay dying, and holding in his hand  a  scribbled note  with the words, "darkfall is coming....soon!"

 

it's actually more like "quarterly"... or at least twice a year.  Normally Quarterly.

 

There's the first one when they release that yearly vid in like Jan/Feb.
it sparks up again around spring time while the kids are on spring break and don't do anything but surf the net and a new round of fanboi's roll in.
Again during summer.

And finally my favorite:
During the fall, every year, "inside information because our guild has a Dev on it" about Beta starting.  Normally like Novemberish. (a story I've heard the past 2-3 years)

Randomly insert the ongoing war of "DFO VS *insert game releasing*" posts about twice a year being the hot topic.

 

After all these phases, there's a calm portion where the fans go their way to erect new shrines, and the trolls are bored and go their way to play a game.  During which, the fans are off playing whatever new release is on the market so they can sit and think "Darkfall will be sooo much better then this."

Yet both of you take time to come to a game forum that you dont believe will ever be released, that is vaporware?

 

Why?  What are you trying to prove?  What are your goals other then trolling and trying to start a flame war?

Sounds to me like maybe you need to find something to do during your summer break from highschool.

I never said it was vapor, did I?  I happen to be a fan of these Forums, they give endless enjoyment it seems.  I try to remain as neutral as possible, a skeptical fan, if you will.  Not because I want to play the game, but because I like to see gamers get what they'll enjoy.

 

I'm not attempting to start a flame war.  Why are you personally attacking me?  Does that make your argument look better to personally attack me, or my observations as stated in the post?

 

Finally, I'm not on "summer break" and it's been almost a decade since High School.  However, work at the studio doesn't start till 3-4pm, and I'm a morning person.  So I spend my mornings online, playing games, reading news, reading Forums, replying if I so desire, and playing with my pets.

In the evening I spend most my time working, since we normally disband around 3am and people go home.

 

when you reply to a post, attempt to attack the issue you wish to address, not the person.  Many of the DFO fans on this board have watched me both support, and attack, different aspects of the DFO Development cycle.  When I'm wrong, I'll admit it... don't like being wrong, but it's better to have the facts straight then spread mis-information.

That's all I ask, attack the topic, not the person.

 Well if you did not attack Darkfall fans with your post, I would not have attacked you.   You may not have directly attack any one Darkfall fan but with your post and the post you quoted attack Darkfall fans in general.

 

Follow your own advice.

How about you get a sense of humour? I would of thought of any fans on this website Darkfall fans would have a sense of humour about their game?

Don;t be so sensitive, surely you can see the humour in a game that has announced its release almost every year since 2003?

If this game released with its full list of features I WOULD PLAY IT! but until the day its released (probably never to anyone who knows this games history)  then this game is just asking for a bit of fun to poked at it.

:)

09 this game will have been in development for a decade,  an  achivment imo :)

Originally posted by rishaki

09 this game will have been in development for a decade,  an  achivment imo :)

You know first  there is something can be called Project, there  are diferent phases to a project one of  them "development" .

If you meant DF as Project for a decade then i am ok.

But you wrong with DF as in development for that long.

Do you count  the very first meeting where one of the developers may have spoke the sentence "i have an idea about an MMORPG with full loot and PvP centric" as in developement ?

Originally posted by Stanford

 

Originally posted by rishaki

09 this game will have been in development for a decade,  an  achivment imo :)

 

You know first  there is something can be called Project, there  are diferent phases to a project one of  them "development" .

If you meant DF as Project for a decade then i am ok.

But you wrong with DF as in development for that long.

Do you count  the very first meeting where one of the developers may have spoke the sentence "i have an idea about an MMORPG with full loot and PvP centric" as in developement ?

 

Design is only one of the first step of the dev process.  But if you want to discount that, actual work on the 3D engine was underway in 2000 at the latest.  I read somewhere that planning started in 1997, but I am not certain, nor concerned enough to try and find the source.

Originally posted by Theodgrim

 

Originally posted by Stanford

 

Originally posted by rishaki

09 this game will have been in development for a decade,  an  achivment imo :)

 

You know first  there is something can be called Project, there  are diferent phases to a project one of  them "development" .

If you meant DF as Project for a decade then i am ok.

But you wrong with DF as in development for that long.

Do you count  the very first meeting where one of the developers may have spoke the sentence "i have an idea about an MMORPG with full loot and PvP centric" as in developement ?

 

 

Design is only one of the first step of the dev process.  But if you want to discount that, actual work on the 3D engine was underway in 2000 at the latest.  I read somewhere that planning started in 1997, but I am not certain, nor concerned enough to try and find the source.

Why not? your concerned enough to spend half your day reading the DF forums, why not fidn the source

Originally posted by Hotnix

Why not? your concerned enough to spend half your day reading the DF forums, why not fidn the source

Because it would cut into my time trolling these forums, of course!  But seriously, does it require some kind of authentication before you will accept the fact that devs dont sit down and start coding at random?  All of this starts with ideas, meetings, and paper - well in advance of writing code.

EDIT:  OK, I took a few minutes away from trolling to dig this up.  Not the one I remember reading, but it is close enough.

Jonric: Please introduce Razorwax AS. When and how did the company get started? Where is it located and who are the members of the team?

Claus Grovdal: Razorwax was founded in July 2000 by Kjetil, Ricki and me. Our vision was to make awesome online games. We had been playing online games for years, but we always felt something was lacking in existing games. Henning joined the team a few weeks later, and Erik joined Razorwax in January 2001. We are located in Oslo, Norway, in new and bright offices, overlooking the river.

Jonric: Let's talk more directly about Darkfall. When did the idea for the game initially arise, and when did you actually start working on it?

Claus Grovdal:

I started planning Darkfall about six years ago, after I was tired of MUDs. I had just seen something on the Internet called Alpha Worlds, and thought "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if this was a game instead of a 3D chat client?" I think it was just after having played Ultima Online for the first time that I really started working more seriously on Darkfall. Razorwax started developing Darkfall the same day we got our offices up and running.

http://rpgvaultarchive.ign.com/features/interviews/darkfall.shtml

Originally posted by Theodgrim

 

Claus Grovdal: Razorwax was founded in July 2000 by Kjetil, Ricki and me. Our vision was to make awesome online games. We had been playing online games for years

You should of kept playing.