This game looks like a modern day Asheron's Call, taken up a notch.   I really wish them the best and hope they pull it off.   If they do and it makes a lot of money, it could end the cycle of clones this genre has been getting the last few years.

Originally posted by walker68

Originally posted by Xris375

Originally posted by originalegg

 

 

 

  They could take out the full loot part as far as im concerned as I really dont care about loot period. If I get rolled in pvp and have to spend half the day to re-gear my toon thats 1/2 a day waisted imo.

Full loot, is the best anti Zerg weapon ever. Now you can hurt your enemy while enriching your self. No more repeative kill, die, kill, die with no conequence.

Originally posted by Isane

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Why is it that the rabid fabois can't reply to constructive criticism? I'd really like to know what you all think of the -FACT- that you only saw zoomed in snippets of the UI and not ONE fullscreen UI view. I was very disappointed by that. Only little bits. maybe like...10 seconds out of the whole video you see an actual interface.

 

And while the graphics are all right in some respects, the spells and the water and so on and so forth look plain horrible, along with the rather empty outdoors (which might of course grow better when players actually build there, could be).

 

Anyway, have fun everyone and calm down a little. You got a video, but it did not deliver as much as I had hoped. But it did deliver more than I thought it would. So we'll see what the beta has to say.

 

The UI is supposed to be very simple , it is about gameplay. You need bags and a health bar. As long as the ground unde rmy feet in the game is solid then I can ask for no more this looks like it will offer some great gameplay and at last someone with the conviction to create a great game.

I feel for the dissapointed but I guess they will be a minority , the haters will hate regardless of anything DF produces so to be honest I care little for the diatribe. While you sit and hate we will be having fun. Bye Bye have an unpleasant evening.

You sir, are an excellent example of why I find most DF Fans so very annoying. You insult people without regards of what they post as long as they post ANY possible criticism of the game. You are about on the same level as the Trolls, because a normal discussion is not possible with you either.

Anyway, your assumption of DF's UI is incorrect by the way. Because the little screenshots we have of DF's UI shows a skillbar along with what you apparently believe is the only thing there should be. And while yes, a simple UI may be good, I would still like to see it, because it would show me much more that there are actual people playing and HOW they are playing than what I've seen in this Video.

Anyway, I hope you will find what you are looking for in DF, but please keep your insults and assumptions about me. Thank you very much.

One thing I am curious about is the construction of guild cities.  We saw a little bit of it, and it may have been accelerated for the video purposes, but I wish we would have seen something like an overhead view of laying out the structures.

And also the scene that has the safe in it, where we see some UI and transfering of items, I wonder if thats an NPC town or a guild city.  The large single safe suggests a guild city, but im not sure.  Im going to rewatch that in detail.

But guys can we please drop the debate of wether this video was in-game footage or not.  Really just watch it and look at the movements of the characters.  It is ingame footage, there is actually text saying "ingame footage" so lets try to discuss what the video has shown us.

I think the graphics arguement is very valid.  The animations are definitely not as smooth as they could be.  And some people value that more than others which is cool.

But the fact is this video confirmed the existence of Darkfall.  You can debate it all you want, and try and point out random other things, but the fact is the debate is over on DF being real or not.

Its status on release and feature list on the other hand is still up in the air until beta.

Originally posted by Paragus1

This game looks like a modern day Asheron's Call, taken up a notch.   I really wish them the best and hope they pull it off.   If they do and it makes a lot of money, it could end the cycle of clones this genre has been getting the last few years.

This x10000.

Already we have seen the DF official forums explode with new members over just the video and *another* beta signup.  Hopefully they release well and it brings some courage into some of the larger developers to go outside the box a little bit.

Originally posted by originalegg

Originally posted by walker68

Originally posted by Xris375

Originally posted by originalegg

I want to play so badly it hurts.  Beta please come my way.

The feeling you get from watching these live ingame battles is great.  I put myself in the shoes of some of the people playing for the video and just think how cool it would be.

Im walking with a couple of my friends, maybe after we just took down a pve mob with some great loot.  Then all of a sudden they start dropping one at a time...there is an archer somewhere.

I start feeling scared because we have this loot we need to protect and we are about to lose it.  Heart starts pumping a little because of the real pvp consequences so i take cover.

Then i see the archer in the tree as he takes out another one of my friends.  I line up my spell and knock him off to his doom, and we all breathe a sigh of relief.

This is real pvp.  Real immersion.  A truly real experience.  Something this genre needs badly.

Not forgetting, last man standing get the rest of the guy's stuff

 

  They could take out the full loot part as far as im concerned as I really dont care about loot period. If I get rolled in pvp and have to spend half the day to re-gear my toon thats 1/2 a day waisted imo.

 

Just a heads up...im not attacking you here.  I just think what you said is a perfect example of what i want to explain...

Your 1/2 day waisted comment is the reason why a lot of us are so excited about this game.  While i dont think a 1/2 day of tiem spent in game will be wasted (you had fun while playing right)...it is the reason why this game will be so immesive.

In WoW, WAR, AoC, etc...you go into pvp and have no problem blindly rushing into a battle.  Or have any concern about any consequences.

That fear of losing 1/2 day of your work is the reason why you will feel immersed.  The freedom this game gives is amazing.  You wont just aim yourself at the next town and hit autorun...you will carefully scout out the area and appreciate the chances someone is looking at you right now ready to pounce.

You will pm a few friends with message like "Hey guys I just crafted 10 superior quality swords for the guild, can you guys come give me some back up while I carry them to x location?"

This is definitely a niche game.  It will NEVER see numbers like WoW, WAR, etc...but it will be populated and will be exciting if it released well.

 

 I understand what your saying and its a good point. I never blindly rush into any pvp senario on any game as is.  So far DAoC did pvp the best imo, back in the day if you blindly rushed into pvp you got a quick trip back to the port keep and had to wait and rebuff etc etc ( hated that ) =).  Ill agree wows pvp has no consequences and its selling point is pure loot anyway.  Im not saying Full Loot pvp cant be fun, all im saying is I really dont care about loot at all in games. Just give me a weapon and let me loose =P. Linage 2 was a pretty good example of how bad loot droping can turn a game away from pvp.

There's three things that really bothered me.

1. The animations.  They definelty need to be tightened up as others have mentioned.  It doesn't have to be 'mostion capture' that's sort of a buzzword for idiots, just make them more realistic.

2. The particle effects - spells and blood spatter were quite bad.  They would probably do better just lowering the particle count and maybe even taking out the blood entirely.

3. The jumping - It looks like everyone was Bobafet flying around with a jet pack.  Oh yeah, you can't swim in metal armor.

All in all though it really looked good.  It's moved up to my #1 list of games I am looking forward to playing (not counting the unspecified ones from 38 Studios, Bioware and Stray Bullett).

Ah well lookes like Ill stick with Vanguard untill the next one comes along.

It seems to me darkfall is going to turn out as it was described.  Sure the animations look really bad lol, but, at least to me and alot of people i know, thats not important at all.  Although I do wish they would have shown player housing, since that usually plays a large role in mmos that have housing in it.  I have a vast experience of MMORPGs, which I have played for 8 years (i'm sure there are many people that played longer than me), and it really does seem to me that DarkFall Online may quite possibly be the greatest MMO I've seen since Ultima Online in 98.

I don't understand how some people can be so biased towards these graphics. There are a lot saying here how the graphics are so poor, sure they're dated... but not poor. Are they AoC... no. Are the WAR... no. It's a small step below. It's not like it's some graphics step-up from Red Alert 1 to C&C3.

So sad you see the gamers saying "graphics aren't a big deal!", and the second a new game doesn't have the extremely top of the line, need an 8800+ series to play minimum... "the graphics are unplayable".

Originally posted by walker68

 I understand what your saying and its a good point. I never blindly rush into any pvp senario on any game as is.  So far DAoC did pvp the best imo, back in the day if you blindly rushed into pvp you got a quick trip back to the port keep and had to wait and rebuff etc etc ( hated that ) =).  Ill agree wows pvp has no consequences and its selling point is pure loot anyway.  Im not saying Full Loot pvp cant be fun, all im saying is I really dont care about loot at all in games. Just give me a weapon and let me loose =P. Linage 2 was a pretty good example of how bad loot droping can turn a game away from pvp.

Walker you are definitely one of the old school PvP'ers I miss.  PvP's purest form is Skill vs Skill.  Pretty much why I believe FPS will always be superior PvP games when compared to MMO's.  "Just give me a weapon and let me loose"  Spoken like a true PvP'er.

Originally posted by grimfall

There's three things that really bothered me.

1. The animations.  They definelty need to be tightened up as others have mentioned.  It doesn't have to be 'mostion capture' that's sort of a buzzword for idiots, just make them more realistic.

2. The particle effects - spells and blood spatter were quite bad.  They would probably do better just lowering the particle count and maybe even taking out the blood entirely.

3. The jumping - It looks like everyone was Bobafet flying around with a jet pack.  Oh yeah, you can't swim in metal armor.

All in all though it really looked good.  It's moved up to my #1 list of games I am looking forward to playing (not counting the unspecified ones from 38 Studios,