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Dalmont  3/01/08 2:18:27 PM

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Doesn't sound like a game I would play, as people doing sad lonely things like playing with lots of accounts at once make me feel that there are lots of special people who play.

You know those people that shun the Social aspect of MMO's. Bit like the nasty kids in some very popular games at the moment. Or those loot only people etc etc

 

 

 
Rouan  3/01/08 2:30:39 PM

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Originally posted by Dalmont

 

Doesn't sound like a game I would play, as people doing sad lonely things like playing with lots of accounts at once make me feel that there are lots of special people who play.

You know those people that shun the Social aspect of MMO's. Bit like the nasty kids in some very popular games at the moment. Or those loot only people etc etc

 

 

And another judge first, don't care to find out if it's true or not.  Any of you care to pull off the hat trick of ignorant statements?

 
Dalmont  3/01/08 3:08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Rouan
Originally posted by Dalmont

 

Doesn't sound like a game I would play, as people doing sad lonely things like playing with lots of accounts at once make me feel that there are lots of special people who play.

You know those people that shun the Social aspect of MMO's. Bit like the nasty kids in some very popular games at the moment. Or those loot only people etc etc

 

 

And another judge first, don't care to find out if it's true or not.  Any of you care to pull off the hat trick of ignorant statements?

Nope, not another judge first, I've played with multi boxers and they aren't usually the the nicest people. But from the reactions of the people that do, doesn't that ring a little true?

 
Rouan  3/01/08 3:21:50 PM

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Originally posted by Dalmont

 

 

Nope, not another judge first, I've played with multi boxers and they aren't usually the the nicest people. But from the reactions of the people that do, doesn't that ring a little true?

And i've known plenty that were the nicest people around.  So, because of your limitted experience, you choose to think ill of all of them.

So, are you going to think all video game players are violent murders because one shoots up a school?

Sweeping generalizations are for those too simpleminded or too lazy to actually judge people for their own actions.  Try not to venture into that territory.

 
Samuraisword  3/02/08 8:24:12 AM

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Originally posted by Rouan
Originally posted by sebbonx

You obviously don't get it. The posters here, and myself are old school EQ players. We don't like five boxers or have any use for them. You would never have been allowed in a guild worth a crap in the old days. You would have been ridiculed and  ostracized till we forced you to quit. Social games don't have people five boxing, and you were simply hogging a spawn for your bot crew. We don't care what your Guild Leader says, he is just as wrong minded about gaming as you are.

Ostracized


$5 says I started playing EQ before you.  I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape.  Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game.  Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it.  To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!?  What are you?  Abashi?  Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it?  Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.

I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.

I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.

Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.

With PvE raiding it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fauning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privelege. - Neanderthal

Rouan  3/02/08 12:38:18 PM

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Originally posted by Samuraisword

 

I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.

 

I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.

Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.

 

Why are you people trying to dictate how people ENJOY a game within' the rules?  WHY?! 

 
Samuraisword  3/02/08 6:24:27 PM

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Originally posted by Rouan
Originally posted by Samuraisword

 

I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.

 

I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.

Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.

 

Why are you people trying to dictate how people ENJOY a game within' the rules?  WHY?! 


We aren't, we are respecting the intent of the designers and the spirit of the game and MMOGs in general. The designers make the rules.

 

You want the benefit of multiple class skills, being more powerful with numbers, leveling faster in a group, then group up with other real people and share the experience and loot and deal with the annoyances that sometimes come along with having to interact and organize with other real people. Trade offs, good and bad, exist between grouping versus soloing, as the designers intend, and are taken  into consideration when balancing the classes, skills of characters, and rewards for different playstyles in the game.

Again, if the designers intended players to be able to control multiple characters at once, and receive the benefits of doing so, then the game design would allow every player to control multiple characters with a single account. You just want to use a cheat code by multiboxing and circumvent design. By doing so you negatively impact other players fun by introducing lifeless characters and bots into the game, and try to gain  an artificial advantage in a competitive environment and thus ruin that aspect of the game.

With PvE raiding it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fauning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privelege. - Neanderthal

krenalor  3/02/08 6:40:17 PM

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Originally posted by Samuraisword

 

W e are respecting the intent of the designers and the spirit of the game and MMOGs in general. The designers make the rules.

 

You want the benefit of multiple class skills, being more powerful with numbers, leveling faster in a group, then group up with other real people and share the experience and loot and deal with the annoyances that sometimes come along with having to interact and organize with other real people. Trade offs, good and bad, exist between grouping versus soloing, as the designers intend, and are taken  into consideration when balancing the classes, skills of characters, and rewards for different playstyles in the game.

Again, if the designers intended players to be able to control multiple characters at once, and receive the benefits of doing so, then the game design would allow every player to control multiple characters with a single account. You just want to use a cheat code by multiboxing and circumvent design. By doing so you negatively impact other players fun by introducing lifeless characters and bots into the game, and try to gain  an artificial advantage in a competitive environment and thus ruin that aspect of the game.


Bravo Samuraisword! An Everquest game is being developed on a emulator by one of the original design team, HE HAS BANNED PLAYING MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS! We don't care what the game looks like now, it sucks, and that has been affirmed by WoW kicking EQ's ass! Original EQ was fantastic, this new game is crappola. We are tired of:

 

Raiders

Multi-boxers

Soloers

Expansions of piss poor nature

 
Hvymetal  3/03/08 2:14:47 AM

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Originally posted by Samuraisword

 

Originally posted by Rouan
Originally posted by Samuraisword

 

I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.

 

I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.

Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.

 

Why are you people trying to dictate how people ENJOY a game within' the rules?  WHY?! 


We aren't, we are respecting the intent of the designers and the spirit of the game and MMOGs in general. The designers make the rules.

 

You want the benefit of multiple class skills, being more powerful with numbers, leveling faster in a group, then group up with other real people and share the experience and loot and deal with the annoyances that sometimes come along with having to interact and organize with other real people. Trade offs, good and bad, exist between grouping versus soloing, as the designers intend, and are taken  into consideration when balancing the classes, skills of characters, and rewards for different playstyles in the game.

Again, if the designers intended players to be able to control multiple characters at once, and receive the benefits of doing so, then the game design would allow every player to control multiple characters with a single account. You just want to use a cheat code by multiboxing and circumvent design. By doing so you negatively impact other players fun by introducing lifeless characters and bots into the game, and try to gain  an artificial advantage in a competitive environment and thus ruin that aspect of the game.

Bravo, and well and eloquently said.

 
sebbonx  3/03/08 12:26:35 PM

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Originally posted by Samuraisword

 

Originally posted by Rouan
Originally posted by sebbonx

You obviously don't get it. The posters here, and myself are old school EQ players. We don't like five boxers or have any use for them. You would never have been allowed in a guild worth a crap in the old days. You would have been ridiculed and  ostracized till we forced you to quit. Social games don't have people five boxing, and you were simply hogging a spawn for your bot crew. We don't care what your Guild Leader says, he is just as wrong minded about gaming as you are.

Ostracized


$5 says I started playing EQ before you.  I've played EQ off and on for the last 8 years so I know the changing landscape.  Just because you, Mr. "Old School EQ Player", can't adjust to the way EQ is now played gives you NO right to attack it's current members for wanting to box to have fun in the game.  Your response is bigoted and ignorant and you should be ashamed of it.  To think, you want to dictate to other people how THEY should enjoy the game!?  What are you?  Abashi?  Are you old school enough to remember how he changed the game and infuriated people by basically telling them how to enjoy it?  Congratulations, you're so in tune with old EQ you now channel how Verant acted in it's early stages.

I'll take your $5. I was one of the 10,000 who logged on that first day of release and played for over 4 years straight until SOE ruined the game after Brad left.

 

I also mostly soloed, and soloing is about playing one character and relying on that character's skills only. Multiboxers are cheaters, circumventing game design by artificially creating their own hybrids and using bots to accomplish solo what they were not intended to accomplish solo and benefiting from multiple class skills without grouping and sharing experience and loot. If the designers intended players to be able to play multiple characters at the same time, they would allow every player to do so with a single account.

Multiboxers ruin immersion, by filling the game with lifeless soulless characters and bots. Based on my experience multiboxers are rude, hog mobs and entire areas, to powerlevel a character or farm items for goldselling. That doesn't make me bigoted, it is fact based on my experience.


You will lose , I started Oct 1999. I left about 6 months into PoP, the expansion that destroyed EQ. I mostly grouped and played a Warrior, but my favorite was my Druid.

Eq is dead, death penalties, no low level groups, melee gimped, don't bother playing.

neonaka  3/04/08 2:13:51 PM

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Samuraisword is correct in everything he said, not only related to EQ but MMORPG's in general.

Rouan is wrong, and if multiboxing is FUN! then go hook your xbox 360 up to 16 other xbox 360's and play yourself in Halo 3 till you puke.

It doesn't belong in MMO's

 
Rouan  3/04/08 4:01:46 PM

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Originally posted by Samuraisword

 


We aren't, we are respecting the intent of the designers and the spirit of the game and MMOGs in general. The designers make the rules.

 

You want the benefit of multiple class skills, being more powerful with numbers, leveling faster in a group, then group up with other real people and share the experience and loot and deal with the annoyances that sometimes come along with having to interact and organize with other real people. Trade offs, good and bad, exist between grouping versus soloing, as the designers intend, and are taken  into consideration when balancing the classes, skills of characters, and rewards for different playstyles in the game.

Again, if the designers intended players to be able to control multiple characters at once, and receive the benefits of doing so, then the game design would allow every player to control multiple characters with a single account. You just want to use a cheat code by multiboxing and circumvent design. By doing so you neg