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• • A issue i have with the DFonline community ( the official forums)

  • Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by Aragon100
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by Aragon100
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by Brenelael
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by originalegg
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by originalegg
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

     Ive crosssed over into the troll side, And frankly after waiting almost 10 YEARS, I damn well have that right.

    
     

    I can agree with this part.  Well except for you having the right to because you waited however long you say you have.  DF owes you nothing and the reasons you listed and the "pr spin" examples show that you are part of the reason why we keep getting unfinished games released to us in this genre.

    God forbid you could believe a company actually wanted to release a polished game to you. 

    *hands arcken a doll"

    ok now show me on the doll where the bad AoC touched you

    
     

    The problem with you guys is that when you make excuses for Darkfalls problems, you say "ITS OKAY" to their antics.

    If you want a good game like you say you do, you hold these bastards accountable for their actions, not make excuses for them to continue on their current path.

    You dont change a brats behavior by making excuses to everyone for his behavior, you punish them in hopes theyll be a little better person for it in the long run.

    
     

    Yea see this is why no one really takes you seriously on these boards anymore.

    Antics?  What antics.  DF owes us nothing.  They have explained their stance on how they handle the information they give out, if you dont like it, move on.  We arent paying customers yet, and we know that the dev team has our best interests in mind.  They have asked the community what we feel about things like SCS and SRS. 

    You call them delaying a beta and restarting the game or missing an update "antics".  When they start making lies to us like funcom, when we actually have to pay for it, then you can call them antics.   We choose to follow them.

    We dont need to make them accountable for their actions. 

    Innocent into proven guilty remember???  Guess not.

    Sounds like DF had the opportunity to release some kind of game into beta in 2003.  But chose not to because, like they said, they werent happy with it.  Guess you would rather have had them release whatever crap they had at the time instead of delay.  Unbelievable.

    Sounds like we are holding developers accountable when WAR openly admits to not being ready and what they are going to cut out.  And you think DF devs want to give out more info at this point when you trolls rip everything they say apart and anything they do say gets labeled as a lie or faked?  yea thought so.

    Why did the video take so long?  because if they just fraps'd for 5min and hosted it then it would have been ripped apart for whatever reason.  It was their first big marketing attempt in awhile and it had to be perfect.  and as good as it was...people like you still complained that they didnt show every spell and every aspect of the game.

    See? Whatd I tell ya? Point in case. They again react like Im making personal attacks against them each individually. I assure you thats not the case. I dont know or care who these people are individually, and I cant understand why they think I care about their PR spinning, ranting, and general tom foolery,

    My beef is with the game and its Aventurine, not you personally, I just dont get defending it like Im insulting your mother.
     

    You called DF fans a bunch of "frothing at the mouth wackos" and you think that having them reply to that with some hostility proves your point? You did attack every DF fan personally in your post. Like I said, try constructive criticism posted in a non-inflamatory way and I'll bet that you will get less hostile replies. Your wording in your posts is why you get the replies you do. Blaming the DF fans for that is like blaming bees for stinging you after you walked up and kicked their hive.

     

    Bren

    And you think multiple Darkfall fans that I dont even know sending me "IN YOUR FACE' mails via MMORPG.COM isnt nuts?

    Never in the years Ive been on this site has anyone gone off the deepend like that.

    
     

    Cant say im surpriced you got their attention.

    More like you got what you asked for.

    
     

    Again much in the way that the fans illogically defend DF, you'll defend someones bad behavior simply because theyre on your side. This again is only proving my point about you guys. Again Id never stoop to that level, but apparently you guys would, and then would defend it later.

    
     

    No not really, i disagree with all you posted so far in this thread so im not surpriced someone sent a PM to you.

    Wether it was a good one or not i cant really say cause i havent read it.

     

    
     

    It wasnt just 1 person sir, it was multiple people. You really dont see anything wrong with personal harassment over an opinion of a game?

    
     

    Yes personal harrasment is low.

    As is calling a whole community of followers of a game guys that will literally froth at the mouth when they read your reply.

    Do you know how i or others in the Darkfall community as a whole react to a reply as the first one you did in this thread?

    No you dont.

    So i agree making personal attacks on someone is low.

    And putting all people in a community into a collective of rabid dogs is also wrong.

    So im not surpriced you got some PM.

  • Posted: 9/06/08 10:00 PM
    Darkfall
• • A issue i have with the DFonline community ( the official forums)

  • Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by Aragon100
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by Brenelael
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by originalegg
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by originalegg
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

     Ive crosssed over into the troll side, And frankly after waiting almost 10 YEARS, I damn well have that right.

    
     

    I can agree with this part.  Well except for you having the right to because you waited however long you say you have.  DF owes you nothing and the reasons you listed and the "pr spin" examples show that you are part of the reason why we keep getting unfinished games released to us in this genre.

    God forbid you could believe a company actually wanted to release a polished game to you. 

    *hands arcken a doll"

    ok now show me on the doll where the bad AoC touched you

    
     

    The problem with you guys is that when you make excuses for Darkfalls problems, you say "ITS OKAY" to their antics.

    If you want a good game like you say you do, you hold these bastards accountable for their actions, not make excuses for them to continue on their current path.

    You dont change a brats behavior by making excuses to everyone for his behavior, you punish them in hopes theyll be a little better person for it in the long run.

    
     

    Yea see this is why no one really takes you seriously on these boards anymore.

    Antics?  What antics.  DF owes us nothing.  They have explained their stance on how they handle the information they give out, if you dont like it, move on.  We arent paying customers yet, and we know that the dev team has our best interests in mind.  They have asked the community what we feel about things like SCS and SRS. 

    You call them delaying a beta and restarting the game or missing an update "antics".  When they start making lies to us like funcom, when we actually have to pay for it, then you can call them antics.   We choose to follow them.

    We dont need to make them accountable for their actions. 

    Innocent into proven guilty remember???  Guess not.

    Sounds like DF had the opportunity to release some kind of game into beta in 2003.  But chose not to because, like they said, they werent happy with it.  Guess you would rather have had them release whatever crap they had at the time instead of delay.  Unbelievable.

    Sounds like we are holding developers accountable when WAR openly admits to not being ready and what they are going to cut out.  And you think DF devs want to give out more info at this point when you trolls rip everything they say apart and anything they do say gets labeled as a lie or faked?  yea thought so.

    Why did the video take so long?  because if they just fraps'd for 5min and hosted it then it would have been ripped apart for whatever reason.  It was their first big marketing attempt in awhile and it had to be perfect.  and as good as it was...people like you still complained that they didnt show every spell and every aspect of the game.

    See? Whatd I tell ya? Point in case. They again react like Im making personal attacks against them each individually. I assure you thats not the case. I dont know or care who these people are individually, and I cant understand why they think I care about their PR spinning, ranting, and general tom foolery,

    My beef is with the game and its Aventurine, not you personally, I just dont get defending it like Im insulting your mother.
     

    You called DF fans a bunch of "frothing at the mouth wackos" and you think that having them reply to that with some hostility proves your point? You did attack every DF fan personally in your post. Like I said, try constructive criticism posted in a non-inflamatory way and I'll bet that you will get less hostile replies. Your wording in your posts is why you get the replies you do. Blaming the DF fans for that is like blaming bees for stinging you after you walked up and kicked their hive.

     

    Bren

    And you think multiple Darkfall fans that I dont even know sending me "IN YOUR FACE' mails via MMORPG.COM isnt nuts?

    Never in the years Ive been on this site has anyone gone off the deepend like that.

    
     

    Cant say im surpriced you got their attention.

    More like you got what you asked for.

    
     

    Again much in the way that the fans illogically defend DF, you'll defend someones bad behavior simply because theyre on your side. This again is only proving my point about you guys. Again Id never stoop to that level, but apparently you guys would, and then would defend it later.

    
     

    No not really, i disagree with all you posted so far in this thread so im not surpriced someone sent a PM to you.

    Wether it was a good one or not i cant really say cause i havent read it.

     

  • Posted: 9/06/08 9:47 PM
    Darkfall
• • A issue i have with the DFonline community ( the official forums)

  • Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by Brenelael
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by originalegg
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

    Originally posted by originalegg
    

    Originally posted by Arcken
    

     Ive crosssed over into the troll side, And frankly after waiting almost 10 YEARS, I damn well have that right.

    
     

    I can agree with this part.  Well except for you having the right to because you waited however long you say you have.  DF owes you nothing and the reasons you listed and the "pr spin" examples show that you are part of the reason why we keep getting unfinished games released to us in this genre.

    God forbid you could believe a company actually wanted to release a polished game to you. 

    *hands arcken a doll"

    ok now show me on the doll where the bad AoC touched you

    
     

    The problem with you guys is that when you make excuses for Darkfalls problems, you say "ITS OKAY" to their antics.

    If you want a good game like you say you do, you hold these bastards accountable for their actions, not make excuses for them to continue on their current path.

    You dont change a brats behavior by making excuses to everyone for his behavior, you punish them in hopes theyll be a little better person for it in the long run.

    
     

    Yea see this is why no one really takes you seriously on these boards anymore.

    Antics?  What antics.  DF owes us nothing.  They have explained their stance on how they handle the information they give out, if you dont like it, move on.  We arent paying customers yet, and we know that the dev team has our best interests in mind.  They have asked the community what we feel about things like SCS and SRS. 

    You call them delaying a beta and restarting the game or missing an update "antics".  When they start making lies to us like funcom, when we actually have to pay for it, then you can call them antics.   We choose to follow them.

    We dont need to make them accountable for their actions. 

    Innocent into proven guilty remember???  Guess not.

    Sounds like DF had the opportunity to release some kind of game into beta in 2003.  But chose not to because, like they said, they werent happy with it.  Guess you would rather have had them release whatever crap they had at the time instead of delay.  Unbelievable.

    Sounds like we are holding developers accountable when WAR openly admits to not being ready and what they are going to cut out.  And you think DF devs want to give out more info at this point when you trolls rip everything they say apart and anything they do say gets labeled as a lie or faked?  yea thought so.

    Why did the video take so long?  because if they just fraps'd for 5min and hosted it then it would have been ripped apart for whatever reason.  It was their first big marketing attempt in awhile and it had to be perfect.  and as good as it was...people like you still complained that they didnt show every spell and every aspect of the game.

    See? Whatd I tell ya? Point in case. They again react like Im making personal attacks against them each individually. I assure you thats not the case. I dont know or care who these people are individually, and I cant understand why they think I care about their PR spinning, ranting, and general tom foolery,

    My beef is with the game and its Aventurine, not you personally, I just dont get defending it like Im insulting your mother.
     

    You called DF fans a bunch of "frothing at the mouth wackos" and you think that having them reply to that with some hostility proves your point? You did attack every DF fan personally in your post. Like I said, try constructive criticism posted in a non-inflamatory way and I'll bet that you will get less hostile replies. Your wording in your posts is why you get the replies you do. Blaming the DF fans for that is like blaming bees for stinging you after you walked up and kicked their hive.

     

    Bren

    And you think multiple Darkfall fans that I dont even know sending me "IN YOUR FACE' mails via MMORPG.COM isnt nuts?

    Never in the years Ive been on this site has anyone gone off the deepend like that.

    
     

    Cant say im surpriced you got their attention.

    More like you got what you asked for.

  • Posted: 9/06/08 9:40 PM
    Darkfall
• • The colors of Darkfall

  • Originally posted by WoWarhammer
    

    I really hope the colors in Darkfall aren't as boring as they appear in the screens and the latest video. Aesthetics aren't the end-all-be-all but, let's face it, the game colors look dull. I don't want to play a game thats brown...and dull...everywhere.

    What do you guys think?

    
     

    Its called graphic style. And to me its the best ever created in any MMORPG.

    I just love the dark, gothic setting in Darkfall.

    The colour palette is perfect.

    Too shiny games isnt good for my eyes.

    Have a nice one

  • Posted: 9/06/08 9:14 PM
    Darkfall
• • A issue i have with the DFonline community ( the official forums)

  • Originally posted by Bruticus_XI
    

    Originally posted by Aragon100
    

    Originally posted by Sprtanredeem
    

     The Darkfall community HATES carebears to an extent that anyone asking questions about carebear topics will be taught humility. This "rabid fanboy" reaction can be remedied by reading up on Darkfall's features and lurking on the forums to find these taboo topics. Is this a "nice" community? No. Is it effective at keeping out most of the carebears? Yes.

     

    I can see where you get the misconception that the HATE for carebears will translate to hate of newbs in game. As far as I can tell, this cannot be further from the truth. Of course there will always be assholes out there, but the majority of the community is not OMG NEWBZ LAWL 1337 GANKZ!?!111. In fact, the majority of the community looks down on this activity an will probably camp the campers into obscurity, if they get too annoying.

    
     

    Good reply.

    Most Darkfall followers hate carebears and the games they arrived from, intense. They and their games stand for everything we hate and what have underminded the MMORPG genre to become what it is today. I been involved in many threads on Darkfall main board where carebears is trying to "sneak"  their carebear features into Darkfall. Too say it mildly, they havent been successful.

    Lotro, WoW, Warhammer, Age of Conan and EQ is all carebear games in my eyes and i wouldnt play them even if i got payed doing it. Many Darkfall followers have the same feeling as me on this. This is something many dont understand, OP included. These games mentioned above isnt an option. Its total crap games. The tolerance for other games isnt that hi when you talk too the real hardcore PvP players.

    Do carebears feel welcomed to Darkfall main board? I doubt it. The lack of a good sandbox in a fantasy enviroment for so many years, february 2003 when UO went carebear, is partly what create this defence behaviour towards carebears. They just aint welcome with there carebear features and if they cant accept it then go play one of the numerous carebear MMORPG games out there. They have a choice, but Darkfall followers dont. The numerous carebear MMORPG games with no endgame, leveling, no consequences isnt an option. Period. So Darkfall is the only hope and it sure get us on toes defending it.

    These carebears just dont have a clue of the game Darkfall and what it stands for. Theyre brainwashed with the latest games and just dont understand a game like Darkfall and its potentials.

    Hyping your own game and dehyping other games have been done by all type of followers here on MMORPG.com. Is it just Darkfall followers that isnt allowed to dehype other games? Pathetic.

    Being a carebear have nothing to do with being a newb. A carebear is a follower of games with features far away from the ones Darkfall cheerish and protect. WoW is a good example of a carebear game. So is Lotro and Warhammer. Being a newb in Darkfall isnt bad at all. Its a guy that want to learn and is as respected as anyone else ingame. All have been newbs at some stage. So being a carebear or a newb is not the same. Heck the newb like Darkfall for what it is and accept the features. A carebear dont accept the features and tries to change the game from within. A huge difference.

    About the ganking of lowbies. A carebear game like WoW is where you find this lame behavior most frequent. In a sandbox game the game mechanics works in favour for the newbs. So the game Darkfall dont promote ganking as WoW does. Isnt the world strange sometimes OP. Level based games is where you find this lame behavior the most. Isnt it kinda strange that you forgot to point this out OP? =)

    Add a good alignement system to that as Darkfall have done and the game will take care of newbs alot better then earlier level based games done. Age of Conan was nothing but a gankfeast.

     

     

    Rabid fanboy and proooooooud of it.

    Don't worry Aragon, you'll get your time. You can rub your arrogant attitude in the carebears' faces when DF comes out, and it's perfect, etc. We'd all be better off if you stick with your other hardcore friends in the DF forums, but no, you have to come to open forums like this where there are "carebears" and you have to insult them, while trying to promote Darkfall. Do you realize how BAD of an impression you make about the game you love?

    Seriously. Step back and think. The OP is right and you're the prime example. You just admitted it.

    
     

    Dont be sad cause i told you the truth about carebears. Its not there fault there brainwashed. They never had the chance to experience a good game, poor fellas.

    Its much better a carebear like you thats not interested in Darkfall crawls back to the carebear site you originated from.

    Why are you here if youre only interest is to bash a game you wont be playing?

    Kinda odd behaviour if you'd ask me.

     

     

  • Posted: 9/06/08 9:07 PM
    Darkfall