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  • Posted: 10/20/08 9:31 PM
    General Discussion
• • Ghost training to be removed

  • Originally posted by Inhibitor
    

    Originally posted by DoomsDay01
    

    Please show me where it says in any manual that ccp has written that states learning skills while your not paying for the account is within the game design.

     

    Hey DoomsDay01...notice the fact that this is on the official EVE Online website...scroll down to "How To Train Skills", and read the first sentence under the "some skills can't be trained on trial accounts" graphic.

    That's what "inactive" means.

     

    Hey I am more than man enough to admit my mistake. I actually looked at that page and missed it. So I guess  he was right in that I need to learn to read better lol. However, I still dont fault them for changing it if they want to. I been playing this game for several years off and on and have never actually took advantage of that feature.

     

    Still though, All you people seriously need to send me all your money. It did say so in my sig! :)

  • Posted: 10/16/08 12:41 AM
    EVE Online
• • Ghost training to be removed

  • Originally posted by rbroussa
    

    DoomsDay,

    Get it right they are now saying it is a bug but the manual clearly states it is a game mechanic. within the game design. It is even in a previous posters sig. Do some research before posting. Learn to read it will help you in life.

     

    Oh because someone has something in their sig we should just believe it. Please show me where it says in any manual that ccp has written that states learning skills while your not paying for the account is within the game design. I certainly couldn't find such a thing. There are lots of messages where people state that they feel this was within the games design but nothing in any manual created by CCP. I figure the best you will be able to come up with is some obscure post possibly by an employee that said it was ok , but guess what, people make mistakes and the person probably overstepped his authority if he stated it.

     

     

    ------------------------------------------------------My Sig---------------------------------------------

     

    I am king of the universe. Everyone or everything living owes me money. So start forking it over.

     

     

     

    P.S. my sig doesn't lie, so it must be the truth. better start sending me money since I own you and everything else in the universe.

    LOL, stupid humans, they will believe anything if its written on the internet!

  • Posted: 10/14/08 12:20 AM
    EVE Online
• • Ghost training to be removed

  • Originally posted by cosy
    

     

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    A long overdue and much needed change will be put in place with the Wednesday, 15 October 2008 patch. Ghost Training, the continuous skill gain on accounts in an inactive or expired state - will no longer function after Wednesday, 15 October 2008. This practice upsets the balance of the game, and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters will no longer be unfairly affected by those few who have not.

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    BAD decision ever same they made on Chinese server
    f**k you CCP

    
    also many ppl take a break from eve put a long skill and 2 months make other things when skill end ppl pay the game and come back
    many ppl wont come back whit this thing

     

    Ok, let me get this straight! You want to tell CCP go to F themselves because people have been taking advantage of a bug thats been in there for years? Seriously, do you think you should get to stop PAYING for your account for 2 months while your skill still trains? Thats the most stupid thing I have ever heard! While I hate using real life to justify anything in game, I can in this instance as its not so much about in game things. You go to a gas station (that you been going to for a year now) and fill up your tank. You drive it around till its empty then go back and tell them they should give you more gas because you been filling up your tank there for a year and deserve it. See how fast they kick your butt out of there.

    And if you dont like that analogy. Lets use another game. You been playing AOC for two months. Your level 40. You decide to take a break. What happens when you come back? Your still 40 with the exact same skills you had before you left. You earned nothing new. Do you think you should petition to get a level increase because you paid for the game and quit and then decided to come back?

    To be honest, I am surprised they have let this go on as long as they have. I would wager that its probably cost them a fair amount of money letting people get away with that over the years. The skill system that eve has is a brilliant one. If you really want to get high level skills you have to be willing to pay for it. I mean, come on, you dont even have to be online for your skills to increase, you just have to have an ACTIVE account.  Their skills are not gained by you actually using them. its a brilliant system to keep people paying money.

    heck, I have been training for the last 3 months and have only logged in to change skills. I haven't even actually played it in that time. Right now, I am simply paying for the ability that when I start playing again, my skills will have risen to where I want them to be.

  • Posted: 10/13/08 10:19 PM
    EVE Online
• • The truth about EVE and CCP

  • Originally posted by Liranan
    

    Originally posted by Finwolven
    

    ISPs can and do change their systems and implement different filtering; I find this to be unlikely as well, but it's something to look at. There's other potential problems as well, such as them limiting your bandwidth for some reason (anti P2P measures maybe?) for non-HTML data transfers...

    Hard to say, but do check with your ISP to be sure, might also be they're having problems with their cross-border provider if they don't have their own link, might be just getting too much latency so that when you get packets from the server, they come out spaced so far apart that sessions timeout...

    Of course, contacting CCP's customer support could also provide some revelation to as to what is going on, and perhaps allowing them to analyze what happens when you log all your clients on might be informative as well. In fact, I recommend doing that before calling your ISP, as then you'll have more information about the problem to relay to them.

    ...Personally, I don't think I could run five accounts on my (fairly powerful, runs Crysis) computer, let alone control them all at the same time. Props to you for mad multitasking skillz.

     

    I bought a Q6600 and clocked it to 3.6 just for EVE. Thanks for the advice, if this does get sorted and a solution is found I will change my stance towards CCP. They could have told me these things themselves but instead all they say is "It's your ISP, period."

     

    You really want to prove to them that it isnt your isp. Do what I had to do to my isp years ago when my isp told me the problem I had  was outside of their network.

    Go get you a free dial up account for  a month. Play on it. See if you have the same issues. If you do, then you know its not your isp. Log everything, show them what it does on a dial up account and what it does on your primary account. However, If it doesn't have that same problem, then you just proved them right and you will have to have a serious talk with your ISP.

  • Posted: 10/13/08 10:04 PM
    EVE Online