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• • Roleplaying, is it dead?

  • With the server merges, is roleplay dead? 

  • Posted: 6/20/08 11:08 AM
    Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
• • NO OPEN WORLD IN AOC!!!!

  • Originally posted by haltea
    

    Originally posted by DownMonkey
    

    Originally posted by haltea
    

    Originally posted by DownMonkey
    

    Originally posted by haltea
    

     

    Originally posted by DownMonkey
    WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

     

     

    Which are?

    
    Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.

    Smaller worlds? Smaller than AoC, you gotta be kiddin, you obviously have no idea. AoC has the smallest world of all major mmoprg i played.

    
    I'm not going to argue with you, I knew as soon as you said "which are" that you where looking for an argument about things you clearly don't understand. I said smaller worlds as bait and you took it, I could go into detail as to what I mean but I don't see any point, you've made your mind up.

    LOL, yeah, exactly my point, you have no arguments at all to back up your bold statements.

    
    Other than a PhD in Computer Science. It's a simple trade off, a HUGE open world will have to pre-load more and more and more than a smaller one, Vanguard is the perfect example of this. The larger the world and more detailed it looks the more of a drain on performance you'll see because the game never really knows which direction you might go in so it ends up pre-loading a lot and chugging along. WoW deals with this by using small zones that have set cut of points between each area, Vanguard is the prefect example of it all going wrong. Zoned games don't have this sort of problem, the down side is of course loading screens and the bigger a zone the longer the load but no reduction in performance while you play. Both methods are viable, both have up and down sides. It doesn't matter how small you think AOC is right now, it has the potential to be huge in size. You sir, are a waste of my time.
  • Posted: 5/23/08 5:03 AM
    Age of Conan
• • NO OPEN WORLD IN AOC!!!!

  • Originally posted by markoraos
    

    It is completely instanced and it has no open world whatsoever, therefore I won't play it. Easy as that.

    If it were built from ground up as an instanced game like GW or DDO it might have worked out but this "Lets structure the game like an open world but make it completely instanced" is total bull. Sorry.

    and here's a bit longer rant on the differences between zoning and instancing

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2030375/thread/181584#2030375

    
    Yeah 'cus no successful MMOs ever use this method. OH wait, they do...
  • Posted: 5/23/08 4:43 AM
    Age of Conan
• • NO OPEN WORLD IN AOC!!!!

  • Originally posted by haltea
    

    Originally posted by DownMonkey
    

    Originally posted by haltea
    

     

    Originally posted by DownMonkey
    WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

     

     

    Which are?

    
    Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.

    Smaller worlds? Smaller than AoC, you gotta be kiddin, you obviously have no idea. AoC has the smallest world of all major mmoprg i played.

    
    I'm not going to argue with you, I knew as soon as you said "which are" that you where looking for an argument about things you clearly don't understand. I said smaller worlds as bait and you took it, I could go into detail as to what I mean but I don't see any point, you've made your mind up.
  • Posted: 5/23/08 4:42 AM
    Age of Conan
• • NO OPEN WORLD IN AOC!!!!

  • Originally posted by haltea
    

    Originally posted by DownMonkey
    WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

     

    Which are?

    
    Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.
  • Posted: 5/23/08 4:10 AM
    Age of Conan