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• • Comparison with Vanguard

  • Originally posted by Pheace
    

    Originally posted by Thillian
    

    Originally posted by Pheace
    

    Originally posted by Thillian
    

    Originally posted by Vicksburg
    

    WOW owns 60% of the MMORPG field.

    Thousands of websites support the game and millions of videos show how the best players play in PVE and PVP.

    Supporting add ons, UI adaptations, class tips, gaming tips. You name it/

    One of the better: www.wowinsider.com

    It is now for almost 1100 days the mosty played game on XFire (number 1) and this being backed up by all kind of independant sources.

    Wow is also the ONLY game in the top 10 that you have to PAY to play. CoD4 being a far second but free to play. That alone says enough.

    Of course you can play Vanguard in which there are about 40K subscribers.

    Number of voters that vote with their wallets .... says it all.

     

    
     

    Yeh because, Blizzard spent more money on marketing campaign before release (40$mil) than Sigil for the whole development of Vanguard (30$mil)

    It's like comparing Titanic movie with 200$+budget with Waking Life that had 2.5$mil. Apparently Titanic saw much MORE people and many more will say it's a great movie, while waking life has much smaller fan base.

     

    Marketing in the Netherlands here for MMO's was non existant before WoW (now you see the tv commercial sometimes) but I can tell you that that game spread on sheer word of mouth in my community and had *nothing* to do with any adds and the like which didn't really become visible till the Celebrity adds were made a few years in.

    I know many people who never played MMO's and thought paying monthly was the last thing they'd ever do change their mind in an instant after they got to play the open beta.

    This game sold itself on *merits*, not on a marketing campaign.

    
     

    Hahahaha yeh, they spent all these milions just for the f*** of it.

     

    Ahh reading is difficult isn't it. In the Netherlands, advertising for WoW was pretty much nonexistant. All the people I saw get into WoW did so because they absolutely loved playing their beta account, some of which had never given the game a second look simply because it would have a monthly fee.

     

    So lol @ you

    
     

    Hah yes reading is very difficult. I guess you didn't notice, but I wasn't really agreeing with your post. I was kinda being sarcastic secretly asking where disappeared all these 40$mil for adv before release? Funny to see you even did that "lol @ you" when it was actually you who misunderstood.

  • Posted: 7/23/08 8:39 AM
    World of Warcraft
• • Deathwhisper is losing guilds...

  • Originally posted by Sharkypal
    

    Originally posted by Thillian
    

    Originally posted by FischerBlack
    

    Originally posted by Unfinished
    

    Fee for the 'Open Beta'

    Fee for the Early Access

    Fee to DL the Client to use a 'Buddy Key'

     

    FunCom aren't fools, they are trying to squeeze out every cent they can out of each customer,  they know they won't be getting many long term subscribers.  The only upside could be that Gaute Godager never helms another MMO development.

    
     

    Agreed. One thing I can give to Brad McQuaid is that in the end he was apologetic for the outcome of VG. Guatte's smugness about his awesome launch and the 700,000 boxes sold, while the player base screams bloody murder on the forums really pisses me off.

    
     

    Brad had very low budget for VG in compare to AoC. VG was suddently cut off from money, which is obviously a different reason why it was released early. In addition Funcom pretends everything is fine with AoC.

    
     

    If Im not very much mistaken, the VG budget was into 30 milion US, which is anything but low.

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    30$ mil yes which is very low for a large mmorpg. It was supposed to be more, so they planned to add even more features, but was cut off from more money. Just to compare. Blizzard spent 40$ mil for adv before WoW release and another 80$ mil for development. AoC numbers were not released yet, but won't be too lower than this.

  • Posted: 7/23/08 8:36 AM
    Age of Conan
• • Deathwhisper is losing guilds...

  • Originally posted by FischerBlack
    

    Originally posted by Unfinished
    

    Fee for the 'Open Beta'

    Fee for the Early Access

    Fee to DL the Client to use a 'Buddy Key'

     

    FunCom aren't fools, they are trying to squeeze out every cent they can out of each customer,  they know they won't be getting many long term subscribers.  The only upside could be that Gaute Godager never helms another MMO development.

    
     

    Agreed. One thing I can give to Brad McQuaid is that in the end he was apologetic for the outcome of VG. Guatte's smugness about his awesome launch and the 700,000 boxes sold, while the player base screams bloody murder on the forums really pisses me off.

    
     

    Brad had very low budget for VG in compare to AoC. VG was suddently cut off from money, which is obviously a different reason why it was released early. In addition Funcom pretends everything is fine with AoC.

  • Posted: 7/23/08 5:18 AM
    Age of Conan
• • Great news! So damned suprise me! wow

  • The committee is a lie, there are no 29th olympic games.

  • Posted: 7/22/08 5:48 AM
    General Discussion
• • Great news! So damned suprise me! wow

  • Originally posted by skeaser
    

    Originally posted by Thillian
    

    Originally posted by holycity
    

    I got a ticket! to 29th Olympic Games Host City and watch the ceremony WOW. so happy! Thanks God! I love you! Kiss it.... mmmmmmmmmmmm
    
    ALL the friends see my post.......Share my luck with you!

    
     

    There are no 29th olympic games. There was 28th, and there will be 30th.

    http://www.olympic.org/uk/games/beijing/index_uk.asp

    BEIJING 2008
    Games of the XXIX Olympiad

    Guess that Olympic committee doesn't know what they're talking about...

    hah, apparently my post was difficult to understand for some.
     

  • Posted: 7/22/08 5:47 AM
    General Discussion