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• • Warhammer questions for those that are "letdown"!

  • Originally posted by ProfRed
    

    Here's the thing.  They give the player choices.  Open RvR, PvE/PQ, Scenario.  Pick one to level and you are free to forge your own destiny!

    Only the flaw in the design is that one of them offers a much faster rate of advancement, and ALL 3 of them require a large number of players to be fun, and offer a decent rate of advancement.  Also from beta they raised the xp/rate of advancement drastically causing the PvE advancement to show drastic slowdown. 

    So the result is 90% of the people playing just use the one method that offers the fastest and easiest rate of advancement leaving the other 10% scattered and largely unable to make the other two forms of advancement worthwhile and eventually joining in on the Scenario grinding.

    What's funny is back when the game was still in beta, I said that, despite how the game was designed, players would quickly zero in on the way that meant the fastest xp/leveling and then that would become the way everyone plays the game, other content be damned.

    A couple people told me I didn't know what I was talking about, that WAR's design would make that impossible and so forth...

    And yet here we are ...

    This isn't me patting myself on the back by any stretch. It didn't take any kind of brilliant insight predict it. Just the hind-sight to see how it's happened in every other MMO.

    Ah well, perhaps Mythic will find a way to balance it out. However, chances are one or two activities will still remain the most popular - will be deemed "the best path through the game". Those areas/activities will get the most players. Then, in turn, everyone else will just hop on the bandwagon and follow suit for fear of being left behind if they don't.

    New MMO. Same old story.

    
     

  • Posted: 10/09/08 8:51 PM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • Leveling speed is a joke, seriously!

  • Originally posted by Sovrath
    

    Originally posted by Theocritus
    

         The game is 3 weeks old, you're 2/3 of the way to max level (40 that is) and youre complaining?? When does this ever end?? You guys realize alot of players ehre used to play games where it took a month sometimes to gain a level right?...people wonder why some of the people on this site dont like WoW....It isnt because of the game itself but because it created a generation of spoiled brat players that want everything easy and fast......They just want to "beat" the game and move on to something else quickly.

    
     

    I have to agree. In a game like this there has to be some type of Journey up. Otherwise there will be no staying power.

    Perhaps a taste of old school Lineage 2 will sober them up!

     

     

    You mean... as in Prelude/C1 Lineage 2?

    LOL. Forget it... They would implode by level 5.

     

  • Posted: 10/09/08 12:59 PM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • Warhammer, BEST GAME EVER CREATED!

  • Originally posted by nogardnaz
    

    Originally posted by medafor
    

    no game period can touch war, no genre. and as far as mmos everything else is a horrible joke in comparision.

     

    Laff

     

    Yeah I sorta chuckled at that one, too.

    "I had a fun experience in the game, therefor it is the best game, of any genre, period".

    Imagine if that were the industry-wide standard of a successful game?

    And you thought the music industry was rife with one-trick ponies?

    By the by, aside from the pouring of oil, Lineage 2 has had large scale sieges with siege weapons, archers on walls and sometimes 200+ players fighting it out on the battlefield for a few years now.

    I understand the excitement of doing it for the first time, but like others have said... After a while it becomes routine and the only real excitement is in the dynamics of the fight or, as in L2 where there are no pre-defined factions, the inter-clan/alliance politics surrounding castle sieges.

    To the OP, I'm sure you'll argue WAR still beats L2 hands down because, well.. you've pretty much already said it. That's subjective at best. Point is, it's not exactly anything new.

     

  • Posted: 10/09/08 9:36 AM
    WAR (Warhammer Online)
• • Who thinks the bot problem is NCsoft's fault?

  • I think a solution to the botting problem is 2 fold, which I'll get to in a moment.

    First... I think it's too far gone at this point.

    Botting has been too entrenched in the game for too long and it's actually gotten to the point where the players *depend* on the botters existing to keep mat prices low. They pretty much dominate any manor with the best crop-to-mat return rates.

    When players refer to NCSoft banning bots as "screwing the players over" because they know the prices of mats are going to skyrocket, that's saying something. When the players are actually eager for the bots to get back into the game and start farming again to bring prices back down, I think that's saying something as well.

    The L2 community and economy is, by and large, dependent on botters.

    Also, the game is losing steam. They've merged 6 servers down to 3 (never a good sign, population-wise, despite NC's claim to the contrary) and, from what I hear, players are still leaving.

    So they missed that boat a long time ago, I think.

    Now... what do I think they should have done?

    1. Cracked down on the botters big-time before they became a problem.

    2. Either, or a combination of the following:
    
    A) Adjust the drop rates or otherwise increase availability of mats required for crafting.

    B) Decrease the number of mats required for crafts overall (the quantities for some of them get pretty crazy by the time you get through crafting the component materials and such).

    I dont' think they should increase drop rates to the point where they're falling off trees and littering the ground. Then it gets too easy and the items become almost worthless. But, at least to the point where a normal player could realistically farm for the materials and have a hope of getting what they need without spending days, weeks or months doing nothing but farming... especially knowing that they could fail the craft and it would all be for naught (100% recipes don't apply of course)

    You know... so they could work toward crafting the items they want and still actually get some xp'ing, PvP, raid-bosses or castle sieges in as well.

    That's my thoughts on it anyway.

     

     

  • Posted: 10/08/08 1:15 PM
    Lineage II
• • It's so stupid to examine level 1 player

  • Originally posted by Larry2298
    

    May I offer you a suggestion? There is one practical way to defense your IQ to examine at level 1 player. Go tell SE to improve the auto target mode. It is not function as it should be.

     

     

    Oookay...

    So you getting your panties in a bunch over people examining you = an IQ issue.  Of course.

    Was there supposed to be an insult in there somewhere?

    What's wrong with autotarget? A mob attacks you, you automatically target it.

    Want it disabled? Just type /autotarget off.

    To turn it back on, type /autotarget on.

    See? Simple.
    
    Here's the problem with your rants here:

    1) The whole "people examining you" thing.
    You've been offered a solution that will eliminate the "problem" immediately. Simply filter out the examine notices via the chat configuration. Voila. Problem solved. But, no. You'd rather keep bitching and whining about it instead.

    2) The myriad things you keep claiming, in various posts, as "broken" or "missing".
    Instead of asking "how do I do this?" or "where do I find this?", you bitch about it. Even after people tell you what to do, you continue to complain about it.

    It seems to me that either you are looking for attention, or you really enjoy complaining.

    If you are not enjoying the game (it's pretty obvious you're not), then simply cancel the content IDs, uninstall the game and move on! There are dozens of other games out there that you might like and that you won't find so challenging to play.

  • Posted: 10/08/08 10:38 AM
    Final Fantasy XI