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• • LOL<----Pwned

  • Originally posted by Zorvan
    

    Originally posted by Xris375
    

    DOS ?

    I'll bet there's not one member on ANY of Failcoms' development teams who know what DOS or COBOL is.

     

    I am in. How much?

  • Posted: 9/06/08 6:55 AM
    Age of Conan
• • Soooo when is AOC getting DX10??

  • Originally posted by Bazanko
    

    Dam and there was me thinking dx10 has some improvments    .------------------------ 
    Simple Stuff  
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    - Vista supports DX10, XP does not, only up to DX9.0c 

    - DX9 hardware will run Vista(including aero glass) and DX10, but only run DX10 games using DX9.0L 
    
    DX10 contains the usual Vertex and Pixel shaders but also includes a
    shader called 'Geometry shader' see here for further info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertex_Shader#Geometry_Shaders 
     
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    Advanced Stuff  
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    - Part of the XNA framework (development kit for PCs and for the Xbox 360) 
    - Use of both integer and float point calculation. 
    - Direct3D 10 supports side-by-side installation with Direct3D 9.0L,
    the version of Direct3D 9.0 for Windows Vista. Direct3D 9.0L adds features such as cross-process shared surfaces, managed graphics memory, prioritization of resources, text antialiasing, advanced gamma
    functions, and device removal. 
    - Rapid occlusion mapping is supported.
    - Fixed pipeline is being done away with in favour of a fully programmable pipeline (often referred to as a unified  pipeline architecture), which can be programmed to emulate the same. 
    - Paging of graphics memory, to allow data to be loaded to Video RAM when needed and move it out when not needed. This enables usage of the system memory to hold graphics data, such as textures, thereby allowing use of more and
    higher resolution textures in games. 
    - There is no limit on the number of objects which can be rendered, provided enough resources are available. 
    - Virtualization  of the graphics hardware, to allow multiple threads/processes to use it, in turns. 
    - New state object to enable the GPU to change states efficiently. 
    - Shader Model 4.0,  enhances the programmability of the graphics pipeline. It adds instructions for integer and bitwise calculations. 
    - Geometry shaders,  which work on individual triangles which form a mesh. 
    - Texture arrays  enable swapping of textures in GPU without CPU intervention. 
    - Resource View  enables pre-caching of resources, thereby reducing latency. 
    - Predicated Rendering allows drawing calls to be ignored based on some other conditions. This enables rapid occlusion culling, which prevents objects from being rendered if it is not visible or too far to be visible. 
     
    
    
    Shader Model 4.0 vs Shader Model 3.0 Comparison table
                                                                
    Pixel Shaders                     dx9 SM3.0       dx10 SM4.0 
    Dependent texture limit             No Limit          No Limit  
    Texture instruction limit           Unlimited         Unlimited  
    Position register                   Yes               Yes  
    Instruction slots                   512               65536  
    Executed instructions               65536             unlimited  
    Texture indirections                No Limit          No Limit  
    Interpolated registers              10                32  
    Instruction predication             Yes               Yes  
    Index input registers               Yes               Yes  
    Temp registers                      32                4096  
    Constant registers                  224               16x4096  
    Arbitrary swizzling                 Yes               Yes  
    Gradient instructions               Yes               Yes  
    Loop count register                 Yes               Yes  
    Face register (2-sided lighting)    Yes               Yes  
    Dynamic flow control                24                Yes  
     
     
                                                                 
    Vertex shaders                   dx9 SM3.0         dx10 SM4.0 
    # of instruction slots              512               4096  
    Max # of instructions executed      65536             65536  
    Instruction Predication             Yes               Yes  
    Temp Registers                      32                4096  
    # constant registers                256               16x4096  
    Static Flow Control                 Yes               Yes  
    Dynamic Flow Control                Yes               Yes  
    Dynamic Flow Control Depth          24                Yes  
    Vertex Texture Fetch                Yes               Yes  
    # of texture samplers               4                 128  
    Geometry Instancing Support         Yes               Yes  
    

     

     

    Posting a bunch of technical stuff without understanding a single line about it is not very constructive, is it? Do you have clue how the above things would allow for "better graphics"?

  • Posted: 8/13/08 5:31 AM
    Age of Conan
• • Soooo when is AOC getting DX10??

  • Originally posted by Dreamstrider
    

    Huxflux; before I begin, I would like to ask the following:
    Are you in any way a programmer or developer of graphical software? If yes, pleae cite your sources or point me to a demo that will show a dx 9.0 setup pulling off the same as a dx 10.0.
    However, I will agree that most gamers wont really notice the differences, they certainly are there (I was at a Demo of the DX 10 Alpha held by funcom last year and one could really see the lighting effect differences for example) On the other hand, most games today don't include dx 10 features for the simple reason that it's too heavy for most computers to handle.

     

    I work for the gaming industry, but am not a rendering programmer. I've seen the rendering guys complain about having to disable their nice special effects code when the client is working in DX9 mode though. And anyway, the tactic of artifically locking hardware and software functionality to force users to upgrade has been the norm since the beginning of personal computing. Whoever does not know that has to read up a bit, before becoming too enthousiastic about "next-gen" stuff.

  • Posted: 8/13/08 5:29 AM
    Age of Conan
• • If this doent get Lufkin fired, nothing will

  • Originally posted by Shiineko
    

    Forget this game.  I'm tired of looking at AoC posts because everytime I do my blood pressure shoots up to about 180 from EXTREME ANGER

     

    I'm going to go take a crap when I get home and use that leather map to wipe myself, then I'll use the art book for my cat's litter box.

     

    You are still here posting though. And if your pressure goes up to 18 because of a game, you should really seek professional help man. Thats is dangerous stuff.

  • Posted: 8/13/08 4:57 AM
    Age of Conan
• • 60% of the official community polled think Darkfall will have over 150,000 subscribers, 40% think over 250,000 and 25% think it will be over 750,000.

  • Hm, the official forums of a game, packed with passionate followers, conducted a poll and resulted in enthusiastic numbers. How credible!

  • Posted: 8/12/08 4:00 AM
    Darkfall