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• • Is this game a sandbox?

  • Originally posted by Sovrath
    

     
    

    Originally posted by Kyleran
    

    Originally posted by Sovrath 

    I'm starting to think that people who want this sandbox style game are really just looking for social interaction. There is no questing per se so you basically seek out other players.

    They are not looking so much for a game but for online friends. If this is indeed the case it borders on a little creepy to my thinking.

     

    Better stick with the day job Sov, psychology isn't your strong suit.

    I play EVE, and yet am a fairly anti-social person/player.  I have no great loyalties, make no real friends, I'm sort of a wanderer going from place to place looking for adventure.

    In my first year of EVE I've fought in Stealth fleets, helped take down player owned stations by the score, helped my corporation in mining or shipping operations, refilled stations to keep our manufacturing engines rolling, fought in large fleet engagements and been destroyed by Titans. 

    I've killed many, made a decent living (by no means a rich player), avoided all mining, flown cover for others, begun building up a base of steady income that I don't actually have to work for.  I can fly scout, probe out hidden fleets, jam the enemy so they can't return fire and let loose with long range guns that others can't come close to matching.

    I've fought directly against the largest empire in the game (BOB) and along side some of the games other big hitters (Goonswarm who are one crazy bunch) and Red Army (who says you need to understand your allies to actually coordinate a fight)

    I've had my alliances utterly wiped from the universe, and at the same time, have been on the winning side and seen other alliances vanish from the game.

    I'm currently fighting in an empire corp which uses wardecs to get its pvp fix and its added a whole new dimension to EVE for me.

    The only questing I do is mission running, as I find it an easy way to make cash at times.  Ratting in 0.0 is another favorite activity, as I prefer things that involve shooting things as a means to make an income.

    And yet, there's so much I haven't experienced yet.  So much to look forward in my 2nd year.  I've only scratched the surface of what is possible in EVE, and I think I've got a long run ahead of me.

    Sandbox style games such as EVE offer so many more opportunities to define your own role in a game, but they are not for everyone.  I'm afraid I'm I'm damaged now, the standard, quest driven, level based, no risk/reward for pvp type game just isn't that interesting anymore. (to me)

     

     

     

    
     

    There is a difference between meeting online and working together with people and actually signing in online as an interactive chat room.
    
    But I suppose I just can't appreciate the idea of reaching out through the internet for personal interaction. I know, that sounds weird this being a site for for "online" games.

    But if you take it for the spirit of the statement, I can then say that I have "real" friends in real life. When I sign online, though I have made "friends" online, they know verylittle about me, they don't come over my house for pizza night, I don't talk about my personal problems in any depth with them. Doesn't mean I don't like them and appreciate them. But I truly don't believe that online friends foster better friendships then friends who are there in real life. You might disagree (as do others) but when I'm down or need someone to talk with I don't log on. I find there is an impersonal layer to that. Of course this can be s symptom of the age of face book and my space. Maybe my age as I'm older and don't look upon online interaction as having the same depth as real face to face personal interaction. This is not to say that one can't foster such relationships and meet face to face and develope a friendship but I'm online to "play games" and do so with others. Not to "make friends".

    I'm not online to seek out new friendships or to reach out. Therefore, getting back to my statement, my purpose is to "not shoot the shit" but to do quests or tasks with others. I find from many posts I have read, people seem to desire the more "personal" chatting in OOC chat and grinding while tallking.

    I want to "do" somehting, not chat. And if that is what it boils down to I will seek entertainment elsewhere as I have friends to chat with. They live in this town, up the street, etc.

    I'm afraid, though I have made friends online, my closer more intimate relationships have been with people in the here and now. These are the relationships that are more real. It is my hope that players of online games have this as well and are not solely seeking "virtual" friends. I just don't believe the same level of depth can be found. You may disagree (as well as others) but from what I've seen and experienced I feel I'm correct.

    So I play online games to "do things" with others and to "be social" but not to make and foster relationships. That is the crux of my statement or at least what I wanted to convey.

    It boils down to the "get out in the sunlight" comment that I've seen so many post!

     

    
     

    Although I find the number of double quotes a little annoying, that doesn't make your post any less true. I'm an old bastard in MMO terms (check my profile) and I wouldn't think of talking to a "friend" online about my personal problems. I guess the people I meet online are more like my work friends than my real friends.

  • Posted: 8/22/08 3:03 PM
    Lord of the Rings Online
• • Rappelz Or LastChaos ?????

  • Originally posted by motto
    

    

     

    i played both of them ( Last Chaos & Rappelz )

    LastChaos for 1 + 1/2 yrs

    Rappelz 1 yr + 2 months  till now

    i still play Rappelz ( Bahamut Server )

    ... LC i quit for long time....

    for me , Rappelz vry ok !!

    the game make me happy & relax ^^

    and now , they  r Episode4 but E5 coming soon ...

    still happy , i think ^^

     

     

    
     

    <snip, I don't wanna get banned>

  • Posted: 8/21/08 10:04 PM
    Rappelz
• • AC Returners

  • I wouldn't call myself a "Returner" as when I last played (1999-2000?) I only lasted like 1 week.

     

    That being said, I'm downloading the trial right now. What server should I get on and whom should I contact?

     

    Edit: I went to your website and read a post titled "new rule.... never more than 3 on at any one time". Based on what I read there, there is no reason for me to join you guys. You've got drama and you don't even have people.

  • Posted: 8/21/08 8:57 PM
    Asheron's Call
• • Is this game a sandbox?

  • Originally posted by Sovrath
    

    Originally posted by tfox2k1
    

    Do people even know what a 'sandbox' style game is?    Apparently not since they keep asking for one.   A sandbox is an open environment where you build the entertainment.     Something such as Second Life.   UO is fairly sandbox, no quests.   SWG was sandbox, again no questing just running around exploring.

    Know what?    SWG sucked at release, there was NOTHING to do except craft and explore huge empty areas.  

     

    A sandbox MMO is one with just a world and nothing to do in it except explore.   Thankfully LOTRO has nearly limitless activities and goals to accomplish.   If you want LOTRO to be sandbox, just avoid all the developer made goals and create your OWN!

    The vast majority of the world is entirely open for you to explore and sandbox.   Take your sandbox to the three Trolls turned to stone from the books and have a tea party.   YEAH!  Sandbox play!

     

     

    
     

    Yeah, that's what I heard. A friend of mine played SWG and told me it was like a virtual job.

    I'm starting to think that people who want this sandbox style game are really just looking for social interaction. There is no questing per se so you basically seek out other players.

    They are not looking so much for a game but for online friends. If this is indeed the case it borders on a little creepy to my thinking.

    
     

    MY irony meter is pegging. [-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-]   (11)

    Hint: You just posted that on a forum dedicated to online-only video games.

  • Posted: 8/21/08 8:18 PM
    Lord of the Rings Online
• • Is this game a sandbox?

  • Originally posted by Lizard_SF
    

    Originally posted by unherdninja
    

    Originally posted by Lizard_SF
    

    Originally posted by unherdninja
    

    First, please learn to slow down and correct typo's in your sentances.

     

    Dude, you just pegged my irony meter.

    
     

    

    Ok first what's wrong with the word typo? Second I’m not talking about little mistakes like putting an a instead of an e in sentence. The OP butchered his whole post. You have to agree. If you don’t then your just being argumentative.

     

    You do not use an apostrophe to indicate plurals.

    Apostrophes are used to indicate contractions (It's==It is) or possessives (The bee's knees). It is not used to warn the reader that an 's' might be coming.

    Also, it should be "you're just being", that is, "You are just being". "Your" is used to indicate possession, again, "This is your boat". On the other hand, you *could* have said "Ur just being", so, props for not doing that.

    It is a fundamental rule of the internet that any post critiquing grammar or spelling will, itself, contain such errors. It is unavoidable. I just found your (not you're) post especially amusing.

    And of course I'm being argumentative. This is the Internet.

    (And I know you shouldn't start sentences with and. But I do it anyway. Also, you shouldn't start sentences with but. The irony continues to mount...)

     

    
     

    You are my new God.

    

  • Posted: 8/21/08 8:13 PM
    Lord of the Rings Online