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• • I won't play if there is any instancing!

  • The one thing that developers can't change is how they're customers behave in the game. Sure logically if a boss would give any exp or drops to me because it's not my quest I would logically leave it alone but not all people don't make choices based on logic. Like every other gamer killing stuff that you are able to kill is an instinct. I don't care if you have to kill this boss to get the ultra-super-mega-special weapon I'm gonna take my P-90 blow the living heck out of it and move on my merry way. A bad developer says "oh you freaking idiots you're not playing my game right you don't get any goddamn benefits from doing that don't do it!" A good developer goes "oh it looks like some of my customers are jerks...ah well let's seperate them so they don't have an oppurtunity to that again"

  • Posted: 7/06/08 1:28 PM
    Stargate Worlds
• • I won't play if there is any instancing!

  • I'm proud at least that a thread of this nature has not become a battleground for the more zealous of game enthusiasts.

  • Posted: 7/05/08 1:41 PM
    Stargate Worlds
• • I won't play if there is any instancing!

  • Originally posted by Trollstar
    

    Originally posted by Laiina
    

    Then you probably won't be pl;aying many MMO's in the future.

    There is simply too much going on in a large MMO for servers to handle without extreme lag.

    So I suggest you buy a console game.

    
     

    QFT.  Yeah, instancing is the way of the future, especially if more games try to release cross platform, consoles and PC's. 

    But also, unlilely the SGW Devs will spot this hear, suggest you raise it on their forums

    
     

    It's true the developers are unlikely to ever even look at these forums but does not every flamer think that his/her flame has burned the entire internets?Does not every hater think that their hatred runs deep and that trolls have made everyone stop playing a particular game in one swift revolutionary post?

  • Posted: 7/05/08 1:07 PM
    Stargate Worlds
• • I won't play if there is any instancing!

  • Originally posted by Sarnath
    

    Ahhh... I get it. Your gripe is two fold.

    1) You hate raiding. Whether its an instance or not, a Guild Leader (GL) or committee of some kind will determine whether or not you get any loot. This is VERY common. Games like Wow, EQ, etc.... any game that has raids is going to have this. Not everyone can get every item. Someone is going to lose and it sounds like you don't like losing.

    2) I definately get the impression that you don't like PvE games or PvP games where folks can opt all the out of the PvP part of a game. Games like Neocron which are mostly open PvP (a few zones are non-PvP) where a player who puts in his Law Enforcer chip and thus opts out of PvP entirely would probably anger you as well. How dare the devs not allow you to gank someone!

    I seriously doubt that you meant to ... but you are coming off as a spoiled little brat who is threateningto pick up his toys and go home if he doesn't get his way. No where in your original post do you try to gather support for your cause. No where do you list any benefits to having zones instead of instances. You present no reasons what-so-ever why anyone should support your position. If you want a better example of how to gather support, read the various anti-PvP articles posted throughout MMORG.com. Many folk have gone to great lengths to state their reasons and have presented the benefits of al strictly PvE game. Whether you agree with them or not, you will see several people taking their side and supporting their position. If you want to gather support for a particular idea, at the very least you must give solid reasons as to why your view is a valid one and state the benefits of that idea.

     

    
     

    Very good points indeed and even though I agree with them I'll play the devil's adovocate for the sake of keeping this rather intresting thread alive.

    Raidless, pve only games with no instancing and a fully persistent world invite a more casual gaming audience perhaps younger children and middle age adults which is a gaming market not really tapped into by most MMOs. I'm not saying we make a gaming that's utterly unattractive to regular non-casual and hardcore gamers. But use the revenue from that untouched demographic to make a more hardcore version of the game we've already made. So when the children become teens or when the adults have a midlife crisis and a need to become cool we'll have a game that is familiar enough to bring them back to us time and time again.

  • Posted: 7/05/08 12:37 PM
    Stargate Worlds
• • I won't play if there is any instancing!

  • Originally posted by admriker4
    

    Im fine with instancing dungeons so everyone isnt fighting over a mob. Nothing worse than losing out on a possible drop because there are 50 people with addon timers camping the spot.

    However I dont want general zones instanced. What Age of Conan did went too far. I play MMO's for the Massive part. I dont want to be seperated by a mirrored instance of that same zone. Its a cheap excuse to allow developers to code an inferior product.

    Im not buying the excuses and frankly saddened to see that some players have. Advanced servers and coding can handle 5000 or more around without lagging so stop lying to us. Hell, EVE can handle 25,000 on a single server. Many games 5 yrs old+ have little to zero instancing and had great graphics for their time.

    I expect SGW to have loading screens when I take a stargate to another world. What I demand though is that I better load into the same dam world as everyone else does. If that isnt the case, I will immediately cancel (or never purchase the game if I learn of this before).

    I play MMO's, not MO's thank you very much

    
     

    I agree I want to be able to go to any planet and see people there that I don't know I also want to go into the depths of a alien tyrants base and fight him one on one without ever coming into contact with some random gun-happy idiot that would kill the boss for the sheer heck of it.

  • Posted: 7/04/08 7:32 PM
    Stargate Worlds